Kempy Posted April 12, 2013 Posted April 12, 2013 Right, I need some help from you CompSci guys out there.On early computers (IBM PC/XT/AT era), was MS-DOS dependent on BIOS interrupts to perform certain functions? Also, does this mean that the versions of DOS a computer could run is limited by whether or not a particular BIOS interrupt routine was available on the ROM? If this is true, I hope that there is a resource somewhere which lists the BIOS interrupts required for DOS to run, so that a BIOS could be designed around a particular version of DOS. Any clarification from anyone who knows more about software than I do would be fantastic.
pwagen Posted April 12, 2013 Posted April 12, 2013 On early computers (IBM PC/XT/AT era), was MS-DOS dependent on BIOS interrupts to perform certain functions? I won't say it was dependent on it, an example seen by programmers bypassing BIOS to access the graphics hardware. But to my understanding, BIOS used to work as an interface between the operating system and the hardware. So even if it was possible to bypass, I don't know that is was actually done. So I guess the answer is yes, pretty much. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/INT_13H http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BIOS_interrupt_call Also, does this mean that the versions of DOS a computer could run is limited by whether or not a particular BIOS interrupt routine was available on the ROM? Not quite. BIOS has changed very very little over the years. And, since BIOS became the de facto standard, operating systems were written with BIOS in mind. The makers of the operating systems simply didn't include functionality that would require a "special version of BIOS" or anything like it. There was just one interface, and they had to deal with it.
Kempy Posted April 12, 2013 Author Posted April 12, 2013 Thanks for your help. I think I'm on the right track now.
LaurieAG Posted April 15, 2013 Posted April 15, 2013 Kempy, the x86 Interrupt Requests, IRQ's, are here for the processors after the 8088 i.e. 8086, 80286, 80486 etc. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IRQ
Enthalpy Posted April 15, 2013 Posted April 15, 2013 DOS allowed the applications to access the Bios interrupts, but also to bypass them. For Windows, beginning with 95 (and maybe Nt3), the OS has its own functions to access the hardware that do not call Bios interrupts. For Windows Nt series, at least from 2000 (and possibly before), the OS prohibits applications to access the Bios interrupts. This is a major step towards safety, but prevents some applications to run, notably the ones dating back to Ms-dos that accessed the Bios interrupts and possibly the hardware directly. For Windows Nt series, one must distinguish the administrator session from power users and normal users. The administrator session (and the system of course) can access the hardware through more direct Windows functions, for instance read a disk sector by its number, instead of a position in a file defined by Windows. This explains why some disk measurement tools can test a disk at locations where files already exist, or a disk where no partition has been created; these need the administrator mode, or rely on a server task in admin mode - while the other test tools create a test file and can run in user mode. The Bios functions evolved little, but as a big benefit, offered a rather uniform interface to varied hardware. Though, they were an awkward limit if some added hardware was not compatible, for instance a disk too big for the CHS mode. Windows not relying on the Bios to access the hardware improved that point but made Win itself less easy to port among different hardwares - and the Bios has first to launch Windows' boot...
EdEarl Posted May 11, 2013 Posted May 11, 2013 It has been a long time since I studied an Intel BIOS. As I recall, it used very few interrupts, reboot being one of them, but it did not use any for I/O, as I recall. The bios is really simple, it initializes the hardware if necessary, and starts a program (e.g., DOS, Windows, Linux, or perhaps your program. BIOS device drivers are quite simple and do not provide drivers for all devices. For example, the Intel BIOS circa DOS had drivers for only two serial ports although microprocessors and some motherboards had four serial ports. The BIOS is in ROM and cannot be changed. However, mostly you can circumvent using it by making your own hardware drivers. Although, some devices have internal ROM that the BIOS or another program may call. Since BIOS are in ROM, it would be fairly expensive to make a BIOS, because you have to have hardware to write into the ROM, and once written you have to throw them away if you have a coding error. I don't know if that ROM is now internal to the microprocessor chip or external. If internal, you might have to work with Intel to program a BIOS. If external, they are likely soldered to the motherboard and difficult or impossible to replace. Good luck.
Enthalpy Posted May 13, 2013 Posted May 13, 2013 Since the last time you checked that, computers have gotten rewritable memory to store the Bios. Same for all hardware with a microcode, for instance a disk host or a graphics card can receive an update. One excellent reason for it is that true Rom chips are not available any more.
EdEarl Posted May 13, 2013 Posted May 13, 2013 Since the last time you checked that, computers have gotten rewritable memory to store the Bios. Same for all hardware with a microcode, for instance a disk host or a graphics card can receive an update. One excellent reason for it is that true Rom chips are not available any more. Duh! I knew that, LOL. I was reaching back into my memory to the time before EPROM, EEPROM and flash memory.
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