extraterrestrial life ( aliens )

[krash661]

i looked through the topics, but did not find a specific topic on extraterrestrial life in general.

so i started this topic.

anyways,

any one have thoughts on this,
I do not know much about it.

'Sirius' Documentary Reveals DNA Test Results On Ata, The '6-Inch Alien'
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/04/23/sirius-documentary-dna-re_n_3135628.html#slide=2330981

[MonDie]

The current evidence suggests that any real extraterrestrial lifeforms are probably much, much, much smaller than six inches.

[krash661]

umm, maybe you do not understand,

first it appears you are referring to the documentary of the research involved with this which there is no excitement involved, i'm not sure were that came from,

and second,

my question was on the the thought's of this specific discovery of this being.

The current evidence suggests that any real extraterrestrial lifeforms are probably much, much, much smaller than six inches.

so this appears to be a hoax to sell dvd's ?

i remember the announcement years ago but forgot about it until recently when i came across this article,
for me it would appear if it was a real discovery and not fake, there would be more attention to it.

but like i said i do not know much about it,

i was just curious.

[MonDie]

so this appears to be a hoax to sell dvd's ?

 

i remember the announcement years ago but forgot about it until recently when i came across this article,

for me it would appear if it was a real discovery and not fake, there would be more attention to it.

 

but like i said i do not know much about it,

 

i was just curious.

 

I didn't know about the finding until now. However, it looks like people hyped up the improbable hypothesis (little green man) rather than the more probable hypothesis (little green man).

 

 

No. It is a hoax to sell DVDs.

 

You don't think they actually believe what they're talking about?

Edited April 25, 2013 by Mondays Assignment: Die

[krash661]

I didn't know about the finding until now. However, it looks like people hyped up the improbable hypothesis (little green man) rather than the more probable hypothesis (little green man).

funny..

 

yeah if i remember correctly it was 10 years ago or so when discovered.

 

[SomethingToPonder]

Europe and Celtic culture are a history subject and while they are truly fascinating are a completely different topic to extraterrestrial life.

I believe that while there are too many wild conspiracy theory's out there that probably cast doubt on the subject, The odds are with us that there is extra terrestrial life out there, Who knows if it is intelligent life or just creatures, But i definitely think that there is something out there. There are too many habitable planets out there that humans could survive on but we are just too far away to manage to get there. If we could be here , Why is it not possible that there could be beings on another habitable planet ? And that alone is based on the belief that things could only survive on what we call "habitable". An ET' s anatomy could allow them to survive on planets we could never even consider landing on let alone survive there.

 

If they are smarter than us, and have advanced technology then i would imagine they would seek out other intelligent life as well, However the universe is more than a big place we probably cant even comprehend how massive it really is. so there could be multiple planets with equal, lesser or advanced technology and civilizations and they are the same as us in the sense of trying to hunt ET life, we would be the aliens to them.

Personally i think the whole little green man thing is rubbish, But i would place money on the fact that somewhere in the universe there is life.

What do you think personally Krash?

BTW the LOTR is much better in the books than the movies. And dragons were originally depicted in ancient Scotland as giant worms almost they certainly had no wings.

Edited April 25, 2013 by SomethingToPonder

[krash661]

Europe and Celtic culture are a history subject and while they are truly fascinating are a completely different topic to extraterrestrial life.

 

I believe that while there are too many wild conspiracy theory's out there that probably cast doubt on the subject, The odds are with us that there is extra terrestrial life out there, Who knows if it is intelligent life or just creatures, But i definitely think that there is something out there. There are too many habitable planets out there that humans could survive on but we are just too far away to manage to get there. If we could be here , Why is it not possible that there could be beings on another habitable planet ? And that alone is based on the belief that things could only survive on what we call "habitable". An ET' s anatomy could allow them to survive on planets we could never even consider landing on let alone survive there.

 

If they are smarter than us, and have advanced technology then i would imagine they would seek out other intelligent life as well, However the universe is more than a big place we probably cant even comprehend how massive it really is. so there could be multiple planets with equal, lesser or advanced technology and civilizations and they are the same as us in the sense of trying to hunt ET life, we would be the aliens to them.

 

Personally i think the whole little green man thing is rubbish, But i would place money on the fact that somewhere in the universe there is life.

 

What do you think personally Krash?

 

BTW the LOTR is much better in the books than the movies. And dragons were originally depicted in ancient Scotland as giant worms almost they certainly had no wings.

 

 

 

​i fore sure agree

and think the words you have used are probably the best to use to cover an overall thought on this..

[johnpeel 100]

I find it extremely unlikely that there is no ET life elsewhere in our or any other universe , but until we conclusively find the evidence then its all guess work . Lets assume that life elsewhere within our universe dose eaisist and that intelligent life(comparable to us ) exsists then ,since our universe is not infinite , the number of intelligent civilizations could be determined. So out of all these civilizations a list could be drawn up with least-most advanced where we would be on the list. We , of course , could occupy the top spot ie most advanced. If this is so then for us to find other intelligent civilizations would , at our present level of knowledge , be extremely improbable. As we advance our knowledge then the probability would increase. Now lets assume that there is much more highly advanced ET's than us and that some of them have the knowledge (and the means) for inter-stellar travel (ie can travel to our solar system) then its probable that they already have. Now , alot of "evidence" for ET visitations ( past and present) is out there. From ancient cave paintings , to Egyptian hieroglyphs , to stories of abductions , crashed space craft , ufo sightings , etc . And the list goes on. Theres alot written about government cover ups ,about aliens being amongst us today , about aliens working with the military etc. Well I for one DONT believe that advanced ET's capable of travelling to earth are amongst us today . This is not to say that they havent been here in our distant past. My reason for this is that if they were here now then you , me and the majority ov the population would b aware of them. They would have no reason to hide themselves from us , nor would they need to ally themselves with any government . Its more likely that they would share their knowledge to benefit the population as a whole . I say this because if I had the knowledge/technology to travel to another civilization in our universe and seen atrocities being inflicted on the population like those being inflicted on us (ie war , starvation etc) and had the means to stop them (which I most probably would have) then I would step in and stop the atrocities . Its for this reason that I DONT believe that advanced ET's are among us at present , nor have been amongst us for quite some time if at all.

[krash661]

listen to this guy,

 

http://www.sciforums.com/showthread.php?133188-Do-Aliens-Exist&p=3060419&viewfull=1#post3060419

I have made contact with a total of 5 (five) alien race groupings, by methods that are unable to be evidenced according to human science adequately.

 

So, what does the above say that is any different to what I have already stated. Answer: Not much...

 

Are they humanoid? Yes.

Are they Human? One group ( let's call it Group 'P') [ 7 sub-races-inclusive ] could be said to be our direct ancestors [the "ancestral" source of our genome]. This group 'P' is not "directly-materially" aware of the other groups as the other groups are not a part of this Galaxy.

edit-

They [group P] didn't contact me... I found them via remote viewing techniques. [Example of one of the seven with in Group P, detail: I witnessed a child birth of an ET child in a room very similar to a hospital ward that we have here on Earth. The child was of distinctly "Asian-sino Chinese Japanese" appearance yet it's ET nature was also obvious. It's parents were likewise]

During the remote viewing session "they " became aware of a alien witness[me] and shut down the session in fear. I have never been able to repeat it since with that particular sub-race]]

 

Indications suggest that they know of Earth and normally remote viewing by humans of them is instinctively prohibited due to culture shock issues. [and privacy issues]

The races of group 'P' involved are well past the technological level that we as humans live under. Distance is virtually irrelevant. They are psychically adept and utilize this ability in their technologies as par of course.

 

example of how adept they are:

"They could be standing right next to you and you would not know that they were"

"You would only be able to witness/see what they are prepared to reveal."

However one thing that they can't control is human ability to "dream" both while asleep and as a "hallucination/dream" whilst awake, so their existence becomes an intangible myth as the world tries to accommodate their reality. [culture shock]

The Earth is an incredibly "Hostile" environment for them to visit. [Humans have yet to get a grip on their violent/paranoid natures - psychic and physically]

Edited April 25, 2013 by krash661

[MonDie]

I say this because if I had the knowledge/technology to travel to another civilization in our universe and seen atrocities being inflicted on the population like those being inflicted on us (ie war , starvation etc) and had the means to stop them (which I most probably would have) then I would step in and stop the atrocities . Its for this reason that I DONT believe that advanced ET's are among us at present , nor have been amongst us for quite some time if at all.

 

*sigh* I guess I will give my piece. This is the speculations forum.

 

Remember how space/time travel works. Imagine their home planet is millions of light years away. Although a trip back home might not take very long for them, it will take millions of years in Earth time.

The same goes for making a call back to their home planet. Imagine they place a call to home from their space ship. The other end of the line, home, won't recieve their call for millions of years (in their time), and then it will take even more millions of years for the response to reach them in their space ship.

So going back home, waiting for a fleet to arrive, or waiting for a response are all options that would take an unreasonably long time. This would be a problem if they don't have the necessary resources or knowledge at hand to help us.

In our society, science incorporates a much larger body of knowledge than it did a decade ago, and this trend continues as we advance our understanding. That's why we have a specialists. One guys knows everything about the electron, one guy knows everything about thermodynamics, and so on. Together, they know a lot, but they know very little on their own. The same would probably apply to the aliens. Of course, the alien technologies for data-storage might be advanced enough that they could have all their society's knowledge in one little microchip. However, they might not have enough time to sift through all the information themselves, and handing all the information over to us could have disasterous potential.

 

If you don't remember relativity, here's a video.

Edited April 26, 2013 by Mondays Assignment: Die

[rktpro]

It seems you are talking about us!

[Moontanman]

So it's six inches long and is obviously half human? I often wonder why anyone would entertain the idea that an alien could mate with a human and have offspring... The very same people that if I told them i had a specimen that was half shark and half dolphin would be immediately skeptical but anyone can say half human and half alien and suddenly this hybrid is reasonable? While it's not impossible that an alien could be humanoid and a shark and a dolphin do have similar shapes at least a shark and a dolphin share 4 billion years of evolutionary history.

 

The instant I read the half human half alien part i thought bollocks.... looks more like Beavis and Butthead had an abortion after anal sex...

[krash661]

yeah, it's becoming more and more of a hoax the more i find on it.

 

IMo, there were reasons why there was no attention to it publicly in the last 10 years.

 

anyways, this is an extraterrestrial life topic in general,

 

so if anybody else has things to post or converse about,

 

post it.

Edited April 28, 2013 by krash661

[krash661]

I just came across this,

 

2 Living ETs Working with US Government

 

http://vimeo.com/65430488

[Moontanman]

I saw that a couple days ago, it's wild for sure. It would be nice to have some corroborating evidence and the fact he is writing a book about it kind of kills it for me.

[MonDie]

How do I know you are telling the truth?

 

Well, there is no definitive test for my claims because my hypothesis doesn't make highly specific predictions. However, there is a large accumulation of little pieces of evidence, and these little pieces of evidence add up.

 

What is the evidence?

 

The evidence is too complicated for me to describe in a short discussion. You have to read this book to really understand.

 

How long is the book?

 

It's very long.

 

Where do I get the book?

 

You have to buy it from my publisher.

 

---

 

He starts talking about conspiracies, then he uses the NWO word at 16:20. I can't watch any more.

Edited June 11, 2013 by Mondays Assignment: Die

[krash661]

lol mondays assignment die ,

 

i had the same issue.

[MonDie]

My earlier post was probably wrong. Such aliens probably could maintain contact with home via quantum entanglement.

 

 

For everything about entanglement: 26:00 onward

 

For the part on quantum entanglement used for teleportation: 37:40 to ~44:00

 

However, I don't know how many times this could be used. The actual entangled particles themselves are transformed? Once they're transformed, are they still entangled?

Edited June 29, 2013 by Mondays Assignment: Die

[Mr Monkeybat]

I am not convinced by UFO conspiracy claims. If they have two aliens helping them for a while why on Earth are they still toying round with helicopters and jets in the USAF. But if I where to come across convincing evidence I would conclude that as they all look so human, and Einstein says FTL is time travel, that these "aliens" "Reticulans" "Tall Whites" "Nordics" etc are in fact the descendants of future humans. As the majority of stars in the galaxy are red and orange dwarf stars I would quite expect distant descendants of humans to look just like that in fact. A planet round a orange Dwarf would be great for agriculture as chlorophyll absorbs red light better and the plants wouldn't get sun burnt. It would also explain why they are so interested in human DNA and making hybrids, perhaps they want some traits that atrophied in the future, or start colonies on heavier worlds or brighter stars. Have no idea how causality and the timeline would sort itself out though.

 

Any discussion of FTL brings up Fermi's Paradox. FTL plus exponential population growth (an essential feature of all living things) fills up the galaxy within a few thousand years.

[Klaynos]

Entangled particles cannot be used to transmit information, that they can is a very common misconception.

 

Once you measure an entangled quantity you break the entanglement.

[krash661]

Have no idea

yeah, i agree that you don't.

[MonDie]

Entangled particles cannot be used to transmit information, that they can is a very common misconception.

 

Once you measure an entangled quantity you break the entanglement.

 

 

Wikipedia agrees with you. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_teleportation

 

But the NOVA documentary speculates about the use of the technology to teleport a person. If that's possible, I think it would be possible for aliens to maintain contact through entangled particles.

Edited June 30, 2013 by Mondays Assignment: Die

[Mr Monkeybat]

yeah, i agree that you don't.

Please elaborate.

[krash661]

does anyone know anything about this below,

 

Black Knight Satellite

 

https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&ie=UTF-8#sugexp=cpsugrpqhmsignedin&gs_rn=17&gs_ri=psy-ab&tok=5bN0_jlKF_RQgsxhTyTnWQ&cp=22&gs_id=u&xhr=t&q=Black+Knight+Satellite&es_nrs=true&pf=p&sclient=psy-ab&oq=Black+Knight+Satellite&gs_l=&pbx=1&fp=3bd41904e7bfd7b2&ion=1&biw=1293&bih=929&bav=on.2,or.r_cp.r_qf.&cad=b

[Moontanman]

does anyone know anything about this below,

 

Black Knight Satellite

 

https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&ie=UTF-8#sugexp=cpsugrpqhmsignedin&gs_rn=17&gs_ri=psy-ab&tok=5bN0_jlKF_RQgsxhTyTnWQ&cp=22&gs_id=u&xhr=t&q=Black+Knight+Satellite&es_nrs=true&pf=p&sclient=psy-ab&oq=Black+Knight+Satellite&gs_l=&pbx=1&fp=3bd41904e7bfd7b2&ion=1&biw=1293&bih=929&bav=on.2,or.r_cp.r_qf.&cad=b

 

 

Maybe not...

 

http://skeptoid.com/episodes/4365