Allergies

[chris logan]

some where on this site (I can't remember where) there was a post on allergies being connected to immunization. Can someone help me find that post or give me more info on the topic.

 

[Brett Nortje]

some where on this site (I can't remember where) there was a post on allergies being connected to immunization. Can someone help me find that post or give me more info on the topic.

Allergies can be avoided by eating the right stuff. if you eat 'stuff' that kills germs, by dividing red blood cells, you will stop getting allergies, or, they will be put out of harm's way for a while.

 

If you were to eat food with the natural equivalents of generic medicine, then you could save a lot of money, and avoid your allergies worst effects. You just got to look on your box!

[iNow]

When I read the post above, it screams out, "holy crap, what a load horseshit." I think I'll keep perceiving it that way until some hard evidence is put forth. Good diets are always beneficial, but the only way eating stuff helps your allergies is if you stop eating foods to which you're allergic.

[Brett Nortje]

When I read the post above, it screams out, "holy crap, what a load horseshit." I think I'll keep perceiving it that way until some hard evidence is put forth. Good diets are always beneficial, but the only way eating stuff helps your allergies is if you stop eating foods to which you're allergic.

Is it not true that if you take all the things that make insulin, and 'roll' them together, you will have it? All things are natural, and all things come from nature, so, if you ingest all the ingredients listed on your box of pills, you will get the required effect. you are still eating them.

[ACG52]

'Holy crap, what a load of horseshit' seems appropriate.

[EdEarl]

For some reason eating honey can improve allergy responses.

 

See the article "Correlation of IgG and IgE antibody levels to honey bee venom allergens with protection to sting challenge."

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/6257151

[John Cuthber]

'Holy crap, what a load of horseshit' seems appropriate.

I think it understates the issues.

[iNow]

For some reason eating honey can improve allergy responses.

 

See the article "Correlation of IgG and IgE antibody levels to honey bee venom allergens with protection to sting challenge."

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/6257151

Actually, eating honey does NOT improve allergy responses. That's a myth.

 

The study you just cited has nothing to do with honey, and referred specifically to an allergic response to a bee sting, or bee venom from a honeybee, and how treating people at regular intervals with small doses of that venom helped them cope better with future stings do to the exposure their immune system had to the venom itself.

 

 

http://www.webmd.com/allergies/features/does-honey-help-prevent-allergies

 

Q: Can local honey help my allergies?

 

A: No. The theory that taking in small amounts of pollen by eating local honey to build up immunity is FALSE.

 

Here's why: It's generally the pollen blowing in the wind (released by non-flowering trees, weeds, and grasses) that triggers springtime allergies, not the pollen in flowers carried by bees. So even local honey won’t have much, if any, of the type of pollen setting off your allergies.

 

Studies show bees don’t just bring flower pollen back to their honeycomb. They bring "tree and grass pollen, in addition to mold spores, diesel particles, and other contaminants," says Palumbo. The problem is that it’s difficult to make a honey from just one kind of pollen (say, weeds and not grass). So, save your local honey for your tea and toast, not for your allergy medicine cabinet.

 

 

http://abcnews.go.com/Health/Allergies/alternative-allergy-remedies-fact-fiction/story?id=18792233#1

 

One of the most common allergy remedy myths is that eating locally grown honey will desensitize allergy sufferers to the pollen in the air, meaning less sneezing. According to Neil Kao, an allergist and station head for the Allergic Disease and Asthma Center, simply eating local honey picked up at a farmer's market is not going to help with your oak, ragweed or juniper tree allergy. Kao said the pollen that bees pick-up from flowers is heavier than the tree and grass pollen that are the main causes of springtime allergy misery.

 

 

 

 

 

I think it understates the issues.

 

I agree. I was trying to be nice(ish).

Edited June 8, 2013 by iNow

[EdEarl]

One of the most common allergy remedy myths is that eating locally grown honey will desensitize allergy sufferers to the pollen in the air, meaning less sneezing. According to Neil Kao, an allergist and station head for the Allergic Disease and Asthma Center, simply eating local honey picked up at a farmer's market is not going to help with your oak, ragweed or juniper tree allergy. Kao said the pollen that bees pick-up from flowers is heavier than the tree and grass pollen that are the main causes of springtime allergy misery.

Good to know. ty

[Dislayer]

Is it not true that if you take all the things that make insulin, and 'roll' them together, you will have it? All things are natural, and all things come from nature, so, if you ingest all the ingredients listed on your box of pills, you will get the required effect. you are still eating them.

 

Insulin is a protein made my beta cells within the pancreas. You cannot just eat all the components of insulin to get insulin. Those components (amino acids) need to be linked together in a certain sequence and then folded in a specific manner (often times with the help of other proteins) in order to function. In essence this is what your body does when you eat protein. It breaks down the protein into amino acids and then uses those to build every protein in your body, however this is different then what you are trying to describe.

 

If the point you are trying to make is that you can get the beneficial effects of aspirin by eating willow bark for example (salicylic acid) you might be able to however you would need to consume an excessive quantity and would probably have adverse reactions to the other compounds within the leaf. Part of the reason medicine began distilling these ingredients and selling them in pill form is so we could get an effective dose that would not be attainable if we were trying to get it from the plant/leafs.

[Acme]

some where on this site (I can't remember where) there was a post on allergies being connected to immunization. Can someone help me find that post or give me more info on the topic.

Yes. Here is the thread. >> Direct evidence from the CDC that vaccines cause food allergies