Is Current Electricity Theory Wrong?

[Windevoid]

 

Is Current Electricity Theory Wrong?

 

And/Or

 

Could Free Energy be Real?

 

With Possible Explanation/(s)

 

(Warning!……Somewhat Technical)

 

 

A steel fork does not make spark when touch either side of a
battery.

 

Connecting either side of a battery to a steel fork via wire
does not make sparks.

 

Sparks
occur when circuit stops being fully complete with enough voltage (about 2.7
volts) (2 AA NIMH).

 

(untested) Capacitor charges (only when circuit is near
complete separated only by the gap between the plates)

 

Battery-provided electricity lights up an LED through a
capacitor (all components in the same series circuit).

 

Battery doesn’t repel or
attract steel silverware.

 

Battery voltage decreases
over time with use (not new).

 

Battery-created electrical energy can go through a capacitor
to light up an LED to the same brightness as when the capacitor isn’t in the
circuit at all.

 

Nickel-Metal Hydride battery self-recharges for a minute of
use whenever it run out.

 

Multimeter results/measurements appear to defy entropy by
going up. Putting the multimeter test lead wires next to each other seems to
cause increase as well.

 

A battery terminal connected to a spoon-sized piece of metal
creates an AC voltage of around 80-200 millivolts.

 

Still ceramic magnet touched by leads
to a multimeter heavily affects the voltage up to 200 or more millivolts either
direction.

 

Electric fan voltage defies Newton’s Third Law by only going down to 2.3V
from 2.7V.

 

Parallel circuit LED brightness defies explanation, stays
the same even with at least 9 resistors all in their own circuits parallel to
LED.

 

A hand-crank-generator-flashlight I unscrewed ran an LED in
parallel with 8 resistors or so and a capacitor as easily as just the LED. The
LED didn't seem dimmer as far as I remember.

 

(The last observation was not included in any manuscripts.)

 

Opinions and Possible Explanations

 

It would seem that rather than just electrons moving, some unknown
“force” or “fluid” drags electrons, and the “fluid” can go right through the
insulation on capacitors.

 

Then perhaps capacitors, batteries, and maybe even magnets,
can create energy by charging and discharging.

 

In today's science, there is this "Law of Conservation
of Energy". And all motion is supposedly kinetic energy and comes from
potential energy.

But I noticed one day that in Newton's three laws of motion, motion is
created not by energy or potential energy, but by an "unbalanced
force".

 

And I remember that fridge magnets can give off
"endless" force apparently without any electrical energy input.

 

So, wouldn't it be theoretically be possible to break the
"Law of Conservation of Energy" using this "force-energy
gap"?

 

Maybe it's possible, with
capacitors/solenoids/electromagnets/batteries to get more energy out of output
force plus waste energy than total energy put in.

 

Then:

 

Work (energy) is FD∙cos(ө)

 

But, if a machine can move magnets and/or coils by changing
the force without moving a magnet or a coil, by, say, changing polarity like a
motor, or turning on and then off repeatedly, then maybe it can do work without
using work, or by using very little work (only enough to move electrons a small
distance).

 

And perhaps all motors create energy, just by being
pulse/polarity-dependent devices.

 

Notes

 

I tried to send this to 7 peer-reviewed journals, but they
all rejected it eventually.

 

I’m starting to wonder, then, whether peer-reviewed journals
are really as good and important of a news source as scientists and other
people seem to think they are.

 

More

 

I have a digital multimeter that I am using
with a battery. First, I tried to run the battery out of as much voltage/energy
as I could. My multimeter said about 12mv or 6 mv. The battery's voltage
wouldn't seem to hit and stay at zero.

I then took it out of all circuits it was connected to. Then I let it sit there
for several days. for the first day or 2, It only went up to about .1V and
seemed to be staying more or less around there, consistent with what I would
expect of a capacitor effect.



But then on day 5 and 6, I checked the battery, and it said .895V and was at
1775 or so microvolts.

I then tried to run that out of amps and on the next day it was right back
there at .893-.892V."

 

Suggestions

 

 

I created a solenoid coil of about 85 turns ( a normal coil
that would move toward or away from a magnet when on and under enough amps). I
tested it, and it ran the same amperage when running far away from a magnet
(about a foot away) as when running right next to it.

The solenoid used only 1 ohm while the LED I had used about
200 kohm.

Also. I learned in DC electrics class, if I am remembering
correctly, that magnetic force of a wire/solenoid is dependant on amps and
turns of wire, not volts or power.

So I could presumably run AC current through a transformer
and maybe or maybe not a diode to get equal force out of less power.

Although the LED I was using seemed to limit amps and
prevented the solenoid from working, maybe more amps or power than the 4
batteries I had could force the solenoid to work. Maybe not.

[EdEarl]

 

Is Current Electricity Theory Wrong?

 

Could Free Energy be Real?

No, you should find why your observations are in error using current theory.

 

No, if it were free you could easily jump into orbit. You would have to hold yourself on the earth, because gravity would not. Also, you would not have to eat, because your body would have free energy. Plants would not need sunlight. Windmills would turn without wind. And, many other totally absurd things.

[Brett Nortje]

No, you should find why your observations are in error using current theory.

 

No, if it were free you could easily jump into orbit. You would have to hold yourself on the earth, because gravity would not. Also, you would not have to eat, because your body would have free energy. Plants would not need sunlight. Windmills would turn without wind. And, many other totally absurd things.

Could be wrong, as, it is still being put in place.

 

Free energy would be where you see reactions. when you sling a oscillator together with the other 'pebbles,' it will keep the energy going until it is used up. this technical trick can be replicated in science, I suppose...

[ydoaPs]

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Moderator Note

Moved to Speculations

[pwagen]

You seem to have a very poor understanding of how electricity is supposed to work. I suggest you remedy this before trying to get anything else peer reviewed.

[Windevoid]

I wouldn't call it out just yet. My LED has been running 9 complete days on 2 AA rechargeable batteries.

[swansont]

I wouldn't call it out just yet. My LED has been running 9 complete days on 2 AA rechargeable batteries.

 

200 kOhms at 2.7 Volts is 13.5 microamps, or about 3 milliAmp-hours over 9 days. Since AA rechargeables are typically 1500-2500 mAh, there's nothing surprising here from the perspective of standard electrical theory.

 

 

 

NB

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Ten or so lines between paragraphs

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

is an annoying presentation style to many.

[Windevoid]

Sorry about the spaces, they weren't in my Microsoft Word document, the pasting system wanted me to paste in a box instead of the actual window. It also jammed many words together.

[Externet]

You need to read this and its embedded links along the paragraphs...

 

-----> http://amasci.com/miscon/whatis.html

[Windevoid]

Maybe the universe doesn't obey the law of thermodynamics and the magnitude of the Lenz Law is a seventh or less of what it should be.

[ydoaPs]

Maybe the universe doesn't obey the law of thermodynamics and the magnitude of the Lenz Law is a seventh or less of what it should be.

The computer you used to type those words disagrees with you.

[Windevoid]

No it doesn't.

[krash661]

is this about the electric universe theory ?

[ACG52]

How about you get at least a minimal education before you try this kind of thing?

[swansont]

No it doesn't.

Your computer would not function if the theories about electricity were wrong, so yes, it does.

[Windevoid]

The fans would still run, and the wires and bulbs, too. The fan would just run 7 times faster than it should assuming this posted theory is right.

[John Cuthber]

The fans would still run, and the wires and bulbs, too. The fan would just run 7 times faster than it should assuming this posted theory is right.

Most people don't use a computer as a fan.

The semiconductors wouldn't work if you were right.

They do work.

You are wrong.

[swansont]

The fans would still run, and the wires and bulbs, too. The fan would just run 7 times faster than it should assuming this posted theory is right.

 

All other issues aside: Does the fan run 7 times faster than it should?

[Windevoid]

_{I don't know. Has anyone else checked how fast a fan runs compared to the battery or AC energy? I don't know and I don' have the tools to check and make decisions about the actual fan speed in real life.}

[krash661]

I tried to send this to 7 peer-reviewed journals, but they

all rejected it eventually.

this pretty much answers everything.

 

after reading some of this i agree with alex.

Edited June 12, 2013 by krash661

[swansont]

_{I don't know. Has anyone else checked how fast a fan runs compared to the battery or AC energy? I don't know and I don' have the tools to check and make decisions about the actual fan speed in real life.}

 

I think the company making the computer checked the fan speed when they were testing the design and also doing quality control on the manufactured devices. If the fan was running 7x faster than it should, they would have checked up on things. Anyone making a motor would have noticed this, multiple times, in the past >100 years.

 

It doesn't pass the smell test.

[Windevoid]

Then perhaps I just noticed it three months ago?

I mean, they're for-profit businesses. They probably won't just do science on their devices when they already make and test them against saltwater and mechanical forces.

[EdEarl]

[Windevoid]

What does the smiley face mean?............It's kind of creepy when I don't know whether it's smiling or smirking.

is this about the electric universe theory ?

No

Repost Without Large Spaces

 

Is Current Electricity Theory Wrong?

And/or

 

Could Free Energy be Real?

With Possible Explanation/(s)

(Warning!……Somewhat Technical)

A steel fork does not make spark when touch either side of a
battery.

Connecting either side of a battery to a steel fork via wire
does not make sparks.

Sparks
occur when circuit stops being fully complete with enough voltage (about 2.7
volts) (2 AA NIMH).

(untested) Capacitor charges (only when circuit is near
complete separated only by the gap between the plates)

Battery-provided electricity lights up an LED through a
capacitor (all components in the same series circuit).

Battery doesn’t repel or
attract steel silverware.

Battery voltage decreases
over time with use (not new).

Battery-created electrical energy can go through a capacitor
to light up an LED to the same brightness as when the capacitor isn’t in the
circuit at all.

Nickel-Metal Hydride battery self-recharges for a minute of
use whenever it run out.

Multimeter results/measurements appear to defy entropy by
going up. Putting the multimeter test lead wires next to each other seems to
cause increase as well.

A battery terminal connected to a spoon-sized piece of metal
creates an AC voltage of around 80-200 millivolts.

Still ceramic magnet touched by leads
to a multimeter heavily affects the voltage up to 200 or more millivolts either
direction.

 

Electric fan voltage defies Newton’s Third Law by only going down to 2.3V
from 2.7V.

Parallel circuit LED brightness defies explanation, stays
the same even with at least 9 resistors all in their own circuits parallel to
LED.

A hand-crank-generator-flashlight I unscrewed ran an LED in
parallel with 8 resistors or so and a capacitor as easily as just the LED. The
LED didn't seem dimmer as far as I remember.

(The last observation was not included in any manuscripts.)

Opinions and Possible Explanations

It would seem
that the magnitude of the Lenz Law is a seventh or less of what it should be.

It would seem that rather than just electrons moving, some unknown
“force” or “fluid” drags electrons, and the “fluid” can go right through the
insulation on capacitors.

Then perhaps capacitors, batteries, and maybe even magnets,
can create energy by charging and discharging.

In today's science, there is this "Law of Conservation
of Energy". And all motion is supposedly kinetic energy and comes from
potential energy.

 

But I noticed one day that in Newton's three laws of motion, motion is
created not by energy or potential energy, but by an "unbalanced
force".

And I remember that fridge magnets can give off
"endless" force apparently without any electrical energy input.

So, wouldn't it be theoretically be possible to break the
"Law of Conservation of Energy" using this "force-energy
gap"?

Maybe it's possible, with capacitors/solenoids/electromagnets/batteries
to get more energy out of output force plus waste energy than total energy put
in.

Then:

Work (energy) is FD∙cos(ө)

But, if a machine can move magnets and/or coils by changing
the force without moving a magnet or a coil, by, say, changing polarity like a
motor, or turning on and then off repeatedly, then maybe it can do work without
using work, or by using very little work (only enough to move electrons a small
distance).

And perhaps all motors create energy, just by being
pulse/polarity-dependent devices.

Notes

I tried to send this to 7 peer-reviewed journals, but they
all rejected it eventually.

I’m starting to wonder, then, whether peer-reviewed journals
are really as good and important of a news source as scientists and other
people seem to think they are.

More

I have a digital multimeter that I am using
with a battery. First, I tried to run the battery out of as much voltage/energy
as I could. My multimeter said about 12mv or 6 mv. The battery's voltage
wouldn't seem to hit and stay at zero.

I then took it out of all circuits it was connected to. Then I let it sit there
for several days. for the first day or 2, It only went up to about .1V and
seemed to be staying more or less around there, consistent with what I would
expect of a capacitor effect.

But then on day 5 and 6, I checked the battery, and it said .895V and was at
1775 or so microvolts.

I then tried to run that out of amps and on the next day it was right back
there at .893-.892V."

Suggestions

I created a solenoid coil of about 85 turns ( a normal coil
that would move toward or away from a magnet when on and under enough amps). I
tested it, and it ran the same amperage when running far away from a magnet
(about a foot away) as when running right next to it.

The solenoid used only 1 ohm while the LED I had used about
200 kohm.

Also. I learned in DC electrics class, if I am remembering
correctly, that magnetic force of a wire/solenoid is dependant on amps and
turns of wire, not volts or power.

So I could presumably run AC current through a transformer
and maybe or maybe not a diode to get equal force out of less power.

 

Although the LED I was using seemed to limit amps and
prevented the solenoid from working, maybe more amps or power than the 4
batteries I had could force the solenoid to work. Maybe not.

[EdEarl]

What does the smiley face mean?............It's kind of creepy when I don't know whether it's smiling or smirking.

Neither, it shows my frustration that you ignore really good advice from very smart and educated people, and frustration that your view of how things work is vastly different from science that has been developed by great minds dating back at least to the time of Plato. That you think you know more about electricity than the folks at NASA who put the Curiosity rover on Mars is incredible.