psi20 Posted January 22, 2005 Posted January 22, 2005 What would happen if you wore a cap with magnets underneath for a long time? Would the iron in your blood be attracted to the magnet? What would happen if you had a lot of iron in your head? What else might the magnet attract? What are the effects of those things?
swansont Posted January 23, 2005 Posted January 23, 2005 The iron in your body is not in a form that is affected by magnetic fields. One reason you don't stick to the roof of an MRI machine. Magnets have no documented effect on your health. The people selling magnetic bracelets, etc., are con artists.
coquina Posted January 23, 2005 Posted January 23, 2005 The iron in your body is not in a form that is affected by magnetic fields. One reason you don't stick to the roof of an MRI machine. Magnets have no documented effect on your health. The people selling magnetic bracelets' date=' etc., are con artists.[/quote'] I wonder what would happen if you put a migratory bird in an MRI? I have read that they have grains of magnetite behind their beaks to help them migrate.
MulderMan Posted January 23, 2005 Posted January 23, 2005 The iron in your body is not in a form that is affected by magnetic fields. One reason you don't stick to the roof of an MRI machine. Magnets have no documented effect on your health. The people selling magnetic bracelets' date=' etc., are con artists.[/quote'] magnets are more of a placebo then?
5614 Posted January 23, 2005 Posted January 23, 2005 i once read that there was some research proving that magnetic fields DO effect cells. also it has been proved by research carried out in oxford university that children living under high voltage electrical power cables have been effected by them. it is either proved or assumed that the magnetic fields around these (in the UK) 400,000V electric cables have caused this effect. source for both of those is The Times newspaper articles over the last few weeks, if you really dont believe me i could try and find some online links.
Coral Rhedd Posted January 23, 2005 Posted January 23, 2005 It is not that I don't believe you 5614, but I would appreciate the links. I work with people with disabilities and one of my clients has environmental illnesses and says she is being affected by EMFs from a power station near her home. I would like to understand this better. She has an odd cluster of symptoms. Regards, Coral
ed84c Posted January 23, 2005 Posted January 23, 2005 http://www.revolt.co.uk/emfcon.html 'revolt.co.uk' lol
5614 Posted January 23, 2005 Posted January 23, 2005 ed84c's does the power cables ok. magnets effect cells: http://www.centurion-systems.com/magnethum.htm one big advert basically! http://www.therionresearch.com/database_bacteria.html magnet fields effecting bacteria
5614 Posted January 23, 2005 Posted January 23, 2005 well and there's these: http://www.powerlinefacts.com/power_lines_cancer_link_known_for_3_years.htm http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/3506713.stm http://www.energynetworks.org/hsg/HSG-Pub.asp http://www.powerwatch.org.uk/ http://www.arpansa.gov.au/is_emf.htm http://www.spiked-online.com/Articles/00000000551D.htm some are for health risks, a few say its not entirely proved, a quick summary of all of them is, its not certain, different experiments show different results, little fields, caused by household electronics is fine, but the bigger power cables are not necessarily. _____________ irrelevant but interesting: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/nottinghamshire/4049267.stm a £3m magnet, (32tonnes) has been delivered to University of Nottingham
5614 Posted January 23, 2005 Posted January 23, 2005 isn't the whole mobile phone thing about the micro-waves emitted by it causing localised heating, where as now we are talking about magnetic fields effecting cells.
swansont Posted January 23, 2005 Posted January 23, 2005 ed84c's does the power cables ok. magnets effect cells: http://www.centurion-systems.com/magnethum.htm one big advert basically! "NOTE - NOT FDA APPROVED FOR USE ON HUMANS IN U.S.A." To get FDA approval you have to demonstrate that it works better than a placebo' date=' among other things. Not having approval isn't proof that it doesn't work, however. Note that they make no actual claims - it's [i']designed[/i] to work that way, etc.
swansont Posted January 23, 2005 Posted January 23, 2005 this should though (its the same thing):http://www.ndmnutrition.com/magnetic%20fields%20causes%20dna. Can't get the link to work, but the main site says: *Statements on this website have not been evaluated by the Food and Drug Administration. These products are not intended to diagnose, treat, cure, or prevent any disease, but rather are dietary supplements intended solely for nutritional use. --- In the US, supplements don't have to prove they do anything, as long as you make no claims about curing diseases.
swansont Posted January 23, 2005 Posted January 23, 2005 but that's the same as the previous one' date=' get onto it from here:http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&safe=off&q=ndmnutrition+magnetic+fields+causes+dna&meta= its the 1st link, dont do the spell thing[/quote'] Note that that refers specifically to 60 Hz fields, not DC.
swansont Posted January 23, 2005 Posted January 23, 2005 i once read that there was some research proving that magnetic fields DO effect cells. also it has been proved by research carried out in oxford university that children living under high voltage electrical power cables have been effected by them. it is either proved or assumed that the magnetic fields around these (in the UK) 400' date='000V electric cables have caused this effect. source for both of those is The Times newspaper articles over the last few weeks, if you really dont believe me i could try and find some online links.[/quote'] There was similar research done in the US. The problem was that it was a "meta-study" and not actual double-blind research, and biases had not been removed from the analysis. When done properly, it was found that the power lines had no statistically noticable effect. In cases there was a correlation, there was some other cause. The Times isn't peer-reviewed, is it?
swansont Posted January 23, 2005 Posted January 23, 2005 magnets are more of a placebo then? Yes. You may notice that ads for magnetic therapies often have testemonials rather than actual research data. You might feel better after strapping the magnet to your body, but that doesn't mean the magnets did anything. You might have felt better anyway, even if you had done nothing. That's why double-blind studies are required to demonstrate effectiveness of medical treatments.
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