jamie_russels Posted July 10, 2013 Posted July 10, 2013 Hi. I'm new here so this will be my first post. I'm Jamie from Alabama. I'm a proud Baptist and I'd like to point out a few inconsistencies I found in the theory of evolution. The first point I'd like to make is in relation to the age of the earth and how it ties in with "evolution". I'm a young earth creationist. I believe that God created the earth approximately 5,000-6,000 years ago, and there is a good reason for this belief. Atheist scientists will tell us that the earth is approximately 4.6 billion years old, but this is impossible. Please hear me out and let me explain before you scoff and abandon this thread. Atheist scientists believe that we evolved from stardust (even just saying it in a sentence sounds silly lol) During a supernova, when a massive star explodes at the end of its life, the resulting high energy environment enables the creation of some of the heaviest elements including iron and nickel. The explosion also disperses the different elements across the universe, scattering the stardust which now makes up planets including Earth. Any element heavier than hydrogen is ultimately a product of the nuclear fusion that takes place within stars. So apparently we are living beings that evolved from lifeless materials. It doesn't make much sense to me because last weekend I was sitting by a lake pondering God's marvelous creation when I picked up a rock and stared at it. It suddenly dawned on me that if that very rock was 4.6 billion years old like athiest scientists say it is, then rocks would have evolved into intelligent creatures also. If evolution really was true and we all evolved from lifeless materials over 4.6 billion years, then that rock should also be a mammal or an insect or something by now. But there it was, still a useless rock, just sitting there. No brain, no self-awareness. Nothing. This is another point I'd like to make. In my senior year of science class my teacher (who I also suspect is an atheist) was explaining to us that humans developed large complex brains because "we integrated meat into our diets a long time ago". The modern human brain is two to three times larger than that of our closest relatives, chimpanzees. But to supply energy to such metabolically demanding tissue, a distinct trade-off in energy allocation had to evolve. Meat and other protein-rich foods were evolutionary drivers of bigger, more complex human brains. Sounds silly to me. We started eating meat and the protein made us evolve a larger more complex brain, resulting in superior intelligence? Okay... well we aren't the only species that eats meat lol. Why didn't other animals evolve to be as intelligent as us? I can name dozens and dozens of animals that eat meat, but can you name how many lions you've met that attended university and became doctors? When you went to high school did you have a grizzly bear teacher? Have you ever had your taxes done by a dog accountant? Nope, not me anyways. A human did my taxes this year. Also, I did some research on something else. Apparently the total amount of water on earth is "1.386x10^21 liters", whatever that means. I don't know what the X and the ^ is for, but I'll continue anyways. There are almost 7 billion people on earth, so let's assume that human beings drink two liters of water a day, which could be true for some people. Some people drink a lot of water. That would mean that every human being on this planet collectively drinks 12x10^9 liters of water a day (I'm pretty sure that's right, I had to ask some Asian guy I know to do the math for me. I kinda suck at math) Now here's what I'm getting at... atheist scientists say that life evolved around 3 billion years ago, so this would mean that human beings alone (excluding animals) would have consumed 9.5 times the amount of water on this planet. This is obviously impossible, because if this were true our oceans would be completely drained by now. So how do we still have large amounts of unused water? One more quick thing. If there is no oxygen in space, then how does the sun keep burning? We all know that fire needs oxygen to keep burning. -1
jamie_russels Posted July 10, 2013 Author Posted July 10, 2013 Wait what does animals peeing have to do with anything? -1
pwagen Posted July 10, 2013 Posted July 10, 2013 Urine is mostly water. So when animals pee, water is restored to nature. Also, when animals die, the water in their bodies is also returned to Earth. Did you include either of those in your calculations? I bet not, since you obviously didn't do the calculations yourself (challenging science and not knowing "x" or ^ is laughable). Not only does most of the stuff in your post have nothing to do with evolution, since it's obviously ripped ftom some creationist websote, all of it os easilly debunked, much for the same reason. Here's a suggestion: read something by someone who didn't fake their degrees, and actually know how to do science. I'll even give you a link to start off with. If something is unclear after that, feel free to ask again. http://talkorigins.org
jamie_russels Posted July 10, 2013 Author Posted July 10, 2013 Urine is mostly water. So when animals pee, water is restored to nature. Wait... so wouldn't that mean all the water we're drinking now would be 3 million years worth of urine? If humans and animals used up all that water and urinated it out over 3 million years then rivers and oceans and lakes would be pure urine by now. That's part of the reason the earth can't be as old as atheist scientists say it is.
pwagen Posted July 10, 2013 Posted July 10, 2013 Yes, you're drinking dinosaur pee. Most of the other stuff is filtrated in nature, in different ways. Again, try learning something before you spout nonsense as "evidence". Posting a simple mathematical number without even being able to read it is strike one. Not knowing where water comes from is strike two. At this point you're no better than a troll. 1
jamie_russels Posted July 10, 2013 Author Posted July 10, 2013 Dinosaur pee? So they peed it out that long ago and it didn't dry up? (assuming the earth has really been around that long) If I left a glass of pee outside for months it would dry up eventually, but somehow dinosaur pee lasted that long? It doesn't make any sense. You didn't really touch upon any of my other points/questions either. You seem to be unusually preoccupied with urine.
ajb Posted July 10, 2013 Posted July 10, 2013 This is clearly a mixture of humor and trolling. It made me chuckle, thanks jamie_russels.
pwagen Posted July 10, 2013 Posted July 10, 2013 You seem to be unusually preoccupied with urine. You're the one drinking it. This is clearly a mixture of humor and trolling. It made me chuckle, thanks jamie_russels.I have a very hard time making my mind up whether it's real. Probably not, but you never know with some people.
swansont Posted July 10, 2013 Posted July 10, 2013 ! Moderator Note Seeing as you're claiming to be unaware of rain, it's hard to think you aren't being deliberately obtuse here, and trolling us. But then, there's Poe's law to consider. OTOH, saying you're from Alabama is a nice touch but having an IP address from the Vancouver area says troll. In any event, creationism is old hat, and not really a science discussion and certainly not a religious one. Closed. 3
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