john5746 Posted January 28, 2005 Posted January 28, 2005 Iraqi's all over the world are participating in the election in Iraq. Even second-generation American Iraqis are allowed to vote. Should this be allowed?
TimeTraveler Posted January 28, 2005 Posted January 28, 2005 Should this be allowed? Allowed by whom? It's their country they should be free to do as they please with their country and their government. If they want to allow Iraqi's outside of the country to vote in their election nobody has the right to tell them that's not allowed. imho.
Tetrahedrite Posted January 28, 2005 Posted January 28, 2005 Do second generation Americans in other countries have the right to vote in the American elections?
Perennial Posted January 28, 2005 Posted January 28, 2005 The situation of Iraq and countries typically holding elections differs quite a bit, people have been exiled and so forth, doesn't sound bad.
Sayonara Posted January 28, 2005 Posted January 28, 2005 If you have dual-citizenship, you can vote in both countries. That's not really unusual - it's just the way it has been reported.
Sayonara Posted January 28, 2005 Posted January 28, 2005 Hmmm. The Beeb call them "ex-pat voters", but don't really expand on that: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/4214357.stm
atinymonkey Posted January 28, 2005 Posted January 28, 2005 I think the change of govenment is viewed important enough to allow retroactive eligibility. The reasoning is a great many citizens left Iraq due to the conditions, who still have a right to vote and then return. In reality, I think the reasoning is a great number of the Iraq population resent the hostile occupation forces and the ex-pats may provide an edge in the voting. There is a real fear that Hussein will be voted back in, which would devastate Bush and Blair. It may even lead to an impeachment of Bush, given his current popularity.
Sayonara Posted January 28, 2005 Posted January 28, 2005 Yes, it's that "ex-pat" in there that's causing problems. I suspect it means "people who don't live in Iraq any more" rather than ex-citizens.
atinymonkey Posted January 28, 2005 Posted January 28, 2005 Perhaps it simply means any person with Iraq as country of origin on a passport. I can't imagine Iraq still has a functioning list of foreign nationals, and it seems the easiest way of assessing eligibility would be via the passport.
blike Posted January 28, 2005 Posted January 28, 2005 It stands for "ex-patriot", don't know what that means though.
Sayonara Posted January 28, 2005 Posted January 28, 2005 You realise "Expatriates" is the first word in the headline, in case we don't know what the article is about?
john5746 Posted January 28, 2005 Author Posted January 28, 2005 I guess if someone must leave their country under dire consequences it is ok, but otherwise, it seems strange to me to be a citizen of one country, yet decide the leadership of another.
ecoli Posted January 28, 2005 Posted January 28, 2005 Jews living outside Israel have a right to vote in Israeli elections...if they travel to Israel to vote in the polls. Perhaps a similiar situation would be appropiate in Iraq.
TimeTraveler Posted January 28, 2005 Posted January 28, 2005 There is a real fear that Hussein will be voted back in, which would devastate Bush and Blair. It may even lead to an impeachment of Bush, given his current popularity. If there is a legitamate fear that that would happen, there needs to be an equal fear that the Bush administration would rig it so it doesn't happen. Paranoia = The sum of all fears.
ecoli Posted January 29, 2005 Posted January 29, 2005 There is a real fear that Hussein will be voted back in, which would devastate Bush and Blair. It may even lead to an impeachment of Bush, given his current popularity. If the Iraqis want Hussein back in power, then who is Bush/Blair to deny them. I dislike Hussein as much as the next guy, but the Iraqi's should still have the right to decide who there leader is...even if it someone we don't like.
Aardvark Posted January 29, 2005 Posted January 29, 2005 There is a real fear that Hussein will be voted back in, which would devastate Bush and Blair. It may even lead to an impeachment of Bush, given his current popularity. As Hussien is not standing as a candidate anyone afraid of that happening needs to calm down, steer clear of the coffee and relax.
Seditious Posted January 29, 2005 Posted January 29, 2005 If the Iraqis want Hussein back in power, then who is Bush/Blair to deny them. I dislike Hussein as much as the next guy, but the Iraqi's should still have the right to decide who there leader is...even if it someone we don't like. Why do they fear that the Iraqi's would vote this monster back in? My understanding is that most Iraqi's despise him...
blike Posted January 29, 2005 Posted January 29, 2005 You realise "Expatriates" is the first word in the headline' date=' in case we don't know what the article is about? [/quote']afk, embarassment.
ecoli Posted January 29, 2005 Posted January 29, 2005 Why do they fear that the Iraqi's would vote this monster back in? My understanding is that most Iraqi's despise him... I was under that impression too. You'll have to ask atinymonkey.
atinymonkey Posted January 31, 2005 Posted January 31, 2005 As Hussien is not standing as a candidate anyone afraid of that happening needs to calm down, steer clear of the coffee and relax. The insurgents have candidates. Some of the 244 parties stand for a return to the old regime. It's not my concern, Falah al-Naqib was the nervous one. I think he's got a slightly better handle on events that, say, you. Why do they fear that the Iraqi's would vote this monster back in? My understanding is that most Iraqi's despise him... To the vast majority of a population, the leader is just the leader. To put it another way, you could say George Bush Jnr carpet bombed Basra killing thousands and George Bush Snr bombed the retreating Iraq army killing over 2000 solders who had already surrendered. Perspective, national pride and tolerance are three reasons why there is a base of Iraqis who don't particularly mind Hussein.
syntax252 Posted January 31, 2005 Posted January 31, 2005 If one is born to American parents, even if he/she was not born inside the USA, they would be citizens of the USA--absent any renunciation of their citizenship. I think they would be elegible to vote in US elections even if they had never set foot inside the country.
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