Cap'n Refsmmat Posted February 3, 2005 Posted February 3, 2005 Please use the search function. http://www.scienceforums.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1936 http://www.scienceforums.net/forums/showthread.php?t=6027 We do not need to discuss anything 38237 times. As for my opinion, no. There are no psychics. Just frauds. Think about it: if they were really psychic, wouldn't they go and win the lottery a few times?
jordan Posted February 3, 2005 Posted February 3, 2005 As for my opinion, no. There are no psychics. Just frauds. Think about it: if they were really psychic, wouldn't they go and win the lottery a few times? I wouldn't assume that psychics a) have control over it and b) always know they have it.
Cap'n Refsmmat Posted February 3, 2005 Posted February 3, 2005 What about the TV psychics who will tell people about their relationships and whatever? Those people ought to have control over it, but you don't see them winning the lottery all of the time.
jordan Posted February 3, 2005 Posted February 3, 2005 So psychics can't exist because tv psychics are fake?
Cap'n Refsmmat Posted February 4, 2005 Posted February 4, 2005 I'm just saying that the established ones are frauds. Can you give me a good example of a real one?
jordan Posted February 4, 2005 Posted February 4, 2005 I frequently (on an almost daily basis) run into a situation that I feel as if I been in before. I have a good idea exactly what is going to happen next. I have no control over it. I can't explain it. I don't think I'm psychic, but I'm saying something like that could possibly be explored more before we can completely dismiss psychic powers, even though tv psychics have long since been dismissed.
Guest ROCKET Posted February 4, 2005 Posted February 4, 2005 I frequently (on an almost daily basis) run into a situation that I feel as if I been in before. I have a good idea exactly what is going to happen next. I have no control over it. I can't explain it. I don't think I'm psychic, but I'm saying something like that could possibly be explored more before we can completely dismiss psychic powers, even though tv psychics have long since been dismissed. that is somehow related with the theory of dreams. jumble information in your braian get connected with each other under certain conditions. that is illusion. very normal psychological state not a psychic thing.
boxhead Posted February 4, 2005 Author Posted February 4, 2005 psychic powers are may be related with persons psychological state.
Sayonara Posted February 4, 2005 Posted February 4, 2005 Do you think you could stop rating all your own threads with five stars? It's pointless and annoying.
Coral Rhedd Posted February 4, 2005 Posted February 4, 2005 Of more interest would be examining why 36% of people so far said yes. I suspect they won't tell you why. Nor will I.
-Demosthenes- Posted February 4, 2005 Posted February 4, 2005 I frequently (on an almost daily basis) run into a situation that I feel as if I been in before. I have a good idea exactly what is going to happen next. I have no control over it. I can't explain it. I don't think I'm psychic, but I'm saying something like that could possibly be explored more before we can completely dismiss psychic powers, even though tv psychics have long since been dismissed. I have deja vu (how ever you spell it) all the time.
jordan Posted February 4, 2005 Posted February 4, 2005 Is it still deja vu if it's not me remembering the event happening in the past but me knowing pretty exactly what will happen for the next five or so seconds as it's happening?
Cap'n Refsmmat Posted February 4, 2005 Posted February 4, 2005 Perhaps it's just predictable. I can tell when a lot of things are going to happen; sometimes you subconciously pick up a pattern.
jordan Posted February 4, 2005 Posted February 4, 2005 So then I guess it's time to ask for your definition of psychic powers.
Cap'n Refsmmat Posted February 4, 2005 Posted February 4, 2005 Psychic (in my definition) would be predicting the future (Next Tuesday you will fall off of a bridge) or reading minds. Not the stage type; that can be set up.
Sayonara Posted February 4, 2005 Posted February 4, 2005 "Predicting" is a misleading word. Psychic powers involve a connection to a source of information that is independent of the receiver - prediction implies informed guessing.
jordan Posted February 4, 2005 Posted February 4, 2005 I think I'd have to agree with sayo's definition on this one, cap'n.
Cap'n Refsmmat Posted February 4, 2005 Posted February 4, 2005 Well, that was my definition anyways. I still find this type of power hard to believe. Since quite a few of the "psychics" are frauds*, I would like to wait for a good study of this before I really believe/disbelieve it. *Harry Houdini once visited a "psychic" to see if they were real. This was the type of psychic who claimed to be able to talk to dead people. Houdini asked her if she could contact his dead sister and she did. Houdini never had a sister at all. It was a fake psychic.
atinymonkey Posted February 5, 2005 Posted February 5, 2005 Houdini did that a lot. He hated fake psychics, because he spent a lot of time and money trying to find a real one. He set the groundwork for a great deal of hocus pokus to be debunked in the 19c, which did us all a great deal of good.
Sayonara Posted February 5, 2005 Posted February 5, 2005 I still find this type of power hard to believe. Since quite a few of the "psychics" are frauds*, I would like to wait for a good study of this before I really believe/disbelieve it. If they're fakes, they aren't psychic. And if they're not psychics, they can't very well be representative of psychics, can they?
boxhead Posted February 7, 2005 Author Posted February 7, 2005 Do you think you could stop rating all your own threads with five stars? It's pointless and annoying. i think that is the way things work all around. You also think that what you say is 5 star. but you dont say it coz you have to be humble higher level of "ego" or super-ego kind of thing according to sigmund freud. no hypocrasy my friend. i love what i say and think and i always rate it 5 star.
Hellbender Posted February 7, 2005 Posted February 7, 2005 I still find this type of power hard to believe. Since quite a few of the "psychics" are frauds*, I would like to wait for a good study of this before I really believe/disbelieve it. I second that. Way too many are willing to believe in pyschic powers without proof simply because it is an interesting possibility.
reverse Posted February 18, 2005 Posted February 18, 2005 I love this psi stuff. But sadly of all the tests I have seen and even participated in a few, not one has yielded anything that looks like there is any such effect. in fact the outcomes are worse than chance in most experiments.
Hellbender Posted February 18, 2005 Posted February 18, 2005 in fact the outcomes are worse than chance in most experiments. go to http://www.randi.org and browse the commentary archive. All of the tests with guys like Uri Geller are just like this: complete failures.
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