Zangetshumody Posted October 18, 2013 Posted October 18, 2013 Any ideas comments or input? (please check out the attachment) its an ariel system combined with a tesla coil, and although it will need a be fed a current to get going, after its already started it should be able to sustain itself since all the electricity going through the primary coil is recycled. One thing I've just seen is that I guess I could put the load coming off the capacitor on the left of the ariel (right near the top).
Endy0816 Posted October 18, 2013 Posted October 18, 2013 Are you talking about wireless charging using radio waves, or an actual zero energy input device?
Zangetshumody Posted October 18, 2013 Author Posted October 18, 2013 (edited) Are you talking about wireless charging using radio waves, or an actual zero energy input device? no, charging using direct current attached at the top of the device. I call it an ariel system, but its really just a special circuit with a wire attached to the top of a tesla coil (that wire is basically the ariel of the circuit below it, its only meant to pick up the charge produced at the top of the tesla coil, which goes into charging the primary coil, and recycling that charge back into the circuit) a tesla coil is kindof like an ariel itself, because the charge that comes to reside on the top dome, is not actually generated from the secondary coil, it comes from the atmosphere due to some correlation caused by the ground below the secondary coil and the resonance in the secondary coil.... ... Im not sure what a zero input device is... but you need enough electricity in the circuit to start the resonance in the tesla coil working and functional, after that it should be able to sustain itself. Edited October 18, 2013 by Zangetshumody
swansont Posted October 18, 2013 Posted October 18, 2013 You will always have losses. In this case, thermal and also radiation at whatever the resonance is. 1
Zangetshumody Posted October 19, 2013 Author Posted October 19, 2013 (edited) You will always have losses. In this case, thermal and also radiation at whatever the resonance is. the design does not require 100% efficiency, it should produce quite a bit of electricity to cover any loss, as far as I can see the only problem would be if the 2 center capacitors cant accept any more charge because they get too congested, although any charge the middle right one holds should be channeled down to the primary coil capacitor. Edited October 19, 2013 by Zangetshumody
swansont Posted October 19, 2013 Posted October 19, 2013 the design does not require 100% efficiency, it should produce quite a bit of electricity to cover any loss, as far as I can see the only problem would be if the 2 center capacitors cant accept any more charge because they get too congested, although any charge the middle right one holds should be channeled down to the primary coil capacitor. There is nothing in the circuit that produces electricity.
Sensei Posted October 19, 2013 Posted October 19, 2013 People don't understand how Universe works because the way teachers learn it in primary and high school, going in chronological order of discoveries (at least here), which confuse a lot of people when they finish learning at this level and no go further to quantum physics. And here is example of this.What do you think is electricity?In closed system, number of electrons is CONSTANT.So the same number of atoms,protons,neutrons in conductors (in f.e. wires) and isolators.In electric generator no single new electron is created.Electrons existing in system are accelerated.Ek = e*Uv=sqrt(2*e*U/me)e is 1.6*10^-19 Cme is 9.11*10^-31 kgboth constantso velocity of electron is pretty muchv=sqrt(3.512624*10^11*U)(for no relativistic speeds)When accelerated electrons are colliding with atoms in wire, they're decelerated, and wire metal atoms are accelerated. This is what we call heat. The simplest way to see it is plugging plain not isolated wire to battery- after a second it will be so hot, you won't be able to hold wire in hand.. It happens all the time, not just after plugging plain wire making short circuit, but it's remaining unnoticed, heating of wire is not significant (it's spread across time). Any ideas comments or input? (please check out the attachment) its an ariel system combined with a tesla coil, and although it will need a be fed a current to get going, after its already started it should be able to sustain itself since all the electricity going through the primary coil is recycled. One thing I've just seen is that I guess I could put the load coming off the capacitor on the left of the ariel (right near the top). If you see photons emitted by Tesla coil, they escaped system entirely, and energy is lost. In free device generator (if it would exists) you should see no radiation to environment. It's direct sign of lost of energy.
hoola Posted November 30, 2013 Posted November 30, 2013 (edited) what you seem to have here is what resembles a voltage tripler or quadrupler wired into a resonant coil apparatus...and yes, it will generate electricity, and it will be powerful enough to drive a small earphone...properly tuned, and with some re-jiggering of the components I quickly surveyed, you might pick up a local AM radio station within a few dozen miles...so technically you are correct in the "free energy" claim. This circuit was the basis of the early wireless "crystal" radios and I built one myself as a child with an oatmeal box and a razor blade/pencil lead assy. as a detector...I never picked up any radio stations, but I would sit and listen for hours adjusting the position of the pencil point on the razor blade. All I ever heard was a soft staticy background noise, and would of course hear a loud static when an electrical storm was in the area.....the caps you want I suppose are to "tune" the coil in to the 8HZ VLF (very low frequency) that has been reported and monitored by specialists in the field. A good report of their activities is on U-tube. (google sprites) It seems "sprite" or fuzzy lightning springs up from the clouds, in a sort of reaction to overy-large downward strikes......and that this sets up a resonant field around the planet between the top of the cloud and the ionosphere top layer. Since there is ligtning striking constantly somewhere on the planet, the energy is continuous.I have also read a recent bio of Nikola Tesla and how he became convinced, sadly to his reputation at the time, that energy could be sent without wires using "nodes" at certain point around the globe....perhaps even losing him the opportunity to be known as the real inventor of radio, as he was doing what Marconi was doing before the italian got the credit for the invention, but didn't consider it important enough to bother with as he was after the bigger fish of wireless power delivery, not what he considered a more trivial enterprise of mere communications. Poor tesla. He squandered his fame and fortune on a bad bet, unsupported by the evidence he had at his disposal at the time. And he did have a huge reputation as he pretty much invented (useable) AC motors and the current AC power system. The poor man had to end up begging JP Morgan for money for financing one flop after the next of his wireless power fantasy......to the point of (perhaps) faking positive results to attain credibility for further investment....I cannot advise as to what size caps you are needing, but the resonant frequency you may be aiming at is 8HZ. So you will have to find the formula for resonant frequency with wiki and then start with figuring out what inductance the main coil is....then add that to the formula to get a correct cap size for 8HZ.....even during an nearby electrical storm I suspect you couldn't get more than a few milliwatts of sporatic power out of a refined and efficient setup, plus you run the risk of lightning striking your antenna.......but good luck....edd Edited November 30, 2013 by hoola
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