A comparison of the rotations of planets as they relate to relativity

[rbwinn]

In comparing the rotations of the two planets, Neptune and Jupiter, we find that if we divide a Jupiter day into the same divisions that an earth day has, 24 hours, with each hour having 60 minutes, and each minute having sixty seconds, and divide a Neptune day into twenty four hours, each hour having sixty minutes and each minute having sixty seconds, then a second on Jupiter is not the same amount of time as a second on Neptune. Jupiter rotates 1.62 times for every rotation of Neptune. We can apply this same principle to transitions of cesium isotope atoms. Scientists do not like for transitions of cesium isotope atoms to be considered this way. In fact, it seems very likely that scientists are going to impose a punishment for anyone who dares to consider transitions of cesium isotope atoms this way.

[imatfaal]

In comparing the rotations of the two planets, Neptune and Jupiter, we find that if we divide a Jupiter day into the same divisions that an earth day has, 24 hours, with each hour having 60 minutes, and each minute having sixty seconds, and divide a Neptune day into twenty four hours, each hour having sixty minutes and each minute having sixty seconds, then a second on Jupiter is not the same amount of time as a second on Neptune. Jupiter rotates 1.62 times for every rotation of Neptune. We can apply this same principle to transitions of cesium isotope atoms. Scientists do not like for transitions of cesium isotope atoms to be considered this way.

 

If you are saying that there will be a different count per second of hyperfine transitions of Cs133 if we redefine the second - then this is correct but completely trivial and very uninteresting. Scientists would indeed frown upon two or more definitions for the same unit - that way madness lies. If you are claiming anything interesting then you need to tone down the Galileo complex and increase the explanation. If this is a continuation of your anti-relativity rant then you need to read more and preach less.

 

In fact, it seems very likely that scientists are going to impose a punishment for anyone who dares to consider transitions of cesium isotope atoms this way.

 

Indeed - in fact I have already put in hand the process of electrifying your space bar for even mentioning it.

[Strange]

We can apply this same principle to transitions of cesium isotope atoms.

Can you clarify what you mean by that? Are you suggesting that the ceasium atoms would behave differently on Neptune and Jupiter (by a factor of 1.62)? Or are you just saying that Neptune-seconds and Jupiter-seconds are different lengths?

 

The first of those obviously needs some justification. The latter is trivially obvious.

Edited October 18, 2013 by Strange

[uncool]

In comparing the rotations of the two planets, Neptune and Jupiter, we find that if we divide a Jupiter day into the same divisions that an earth day has, 24 hours, with each hour having 60 minutes, and each minute having sixty seconds, and divide a Neptune day into twenty four hours, each hour having sixty minutes and each minute having sixty seconds, then a second on Jupiter is not the same amount of time as a second on Neptune. Jupiter rotates 1.62 times for every rotation of Neptune. We can apply this same principle to transitions of cesium isotope atoms. Scientists do not like for transitions of cesium isotope atoms to be considered this way. In fact, it seems very likely that scientists are going to impose a punishment for anyone who dares to consider transitions of cesium isotope atoms this way.

Where do you get the idea that "scientists are going to impose a punishment" for anything? How would scientists "impose" this punishment? Do you think that scientists control the government?

 

"Scientists do not like for transitions of cesium isotope atoms to be considered in this way" because they have shown it to be inaccurate, just as we could say that scientists do not like for the Earth to be considered as flat. Once again: you are free to be wrong. Just because someone tells you that you are wrong doesn't mean that they are going to punish you (unless you consider laughter to be punishment).

=Uncool-

[swansont]

The whole idea behind using a common standard is that everybody gets the same answer. The length of the second is well-defined, so the comparison is simply wrong. A more apt comparison would be to determine the second in terms of 9192631770 oscillations of the hyperfine transition in Cs-133, and also defining it as 9192631770 oscillations of the hyperfine transition in Rb-87. They wouldn't be the same duration. Nobody … excuse me, almost nobody would be surprised at this revelation.

[Ophiolite]

In comparing the rotations of the two planets, Neptune and Jupiter, we find ............

Could you explain why you have limited yourself to Neptune and Jupiter? Why not Saturn and Uranus, or Mercury and Mars - at least this one has alliteration?

 

I'd also like to ask what sort of punishment you expect would be meted out and under what jurisdiction and legal instruments would it be applied?

[Greg H.]

Isn't this just a rehash of the previous Relativity is wrong because the planets orbit crap from rbwinn's last thread?

 

You're still not showing your work, and are, most likely, still doing the math wrong.

[swansont]

Isn't this just a rehash of the previous Relativity is wrong because the planets orbit crap from rbwinn's last thread?

 

You're still not showing your work, and are, most likely, still doing the math wrong.

For the moment it is merely a misunderstanding of what a standard is. (If it turns into a relativity is wrong clone, be assured it will be shut down.)