nameta9 Posted February 24, 2005 Posted February 24, 2005 Wouldn't it also to be true that if an infinite number of planets meant that anything imaginable would exist, that since it is imaginable that a planet like ours would not[/b'] exist, that that would prove that it didn't? You are correct and this is the theory of the infinite-infinite universe where everything including all contradictions are present and acceptable.
nameta9 Posted February 24, 2005 Posted February 24, 2005 I also want to add that you must be careful as to what you are referring the infinite to. If you are referring to an infinite universe in space extension or time extension but within the physical laws of our universe as known so far, then all these weird possibilities (planet of elephants) are most likely not possible. But if you refer to an infinite universe in terms of "possibilities", "concepts", "laws of physics", "combinations" in other words an infinite universe in terms of all possible "concepts" conceivable, then you are no longer dealing with the realm of physics but metaphysics and philosophy and thus the infinite-infinite universe with all its acceptable contradictions.
Sayonara Posted February 24, 2005 Posted February 24, 2005 He's asking about the variety of planets in an infinite universe, which requires certain rules.
gamefreek_01 Posted February 24, 2005 Posted February 24, 2005 the way i understand infinity is very simple when something is infinite its quantity can be anything from 1 too 9999999999999999999999999 so thats means that the universe if infinite could have 1 km of space or 9999999999999999999999 km of space. also it could have 1 or 9999999999999999999999999999999999 grams of matter or planets or anything, meaing that the density could be anything but becasue the density has a certain limit that means that the universe also would have finite space and mass.
Sayonara Posted February 25, 2005 Posted February 25, 2005 You can't have infinite quantities. It's a contradiction in terms.
gamefreek_01 Posted February 25, 2005 Posted February 25, 2005 Actually infinity only seems impossible because of all the limits that seems to occur in our world, it is still possilbe that infinity is possible without getting evidence but once you apply evidence around you, you find that this universe does end, but then whats out side, other universes? maybe millions, then whats outside that because that cant be infinte then how many of these places that hold millions of universes are there. and so and you will never come to logical conslusion.
Sayonara Posted February 25, 2005 Posted February 25, 2005 See, you say that, but you're not convincing me you know what the mathematical implications of "infinite" actually are.
Ophiolite Posted February 25, 2005 Posted February 25, 2005 but once you apply evidence around you, you find that this universe does end,Which evidence?
gamefreek_01 Posted February 25, 2005 Posted February 25, 2005 like we percieve things like our earth has a limit to how much matter its made of it would then make sense to assume that so does the universe
Sayonara Posted February 26, 2005 Posted February 26, 2005 Maybe it makes sense in your head, but it's still a non sequitur.
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