God and Perfection

[s1eep]

Where does the idea of God come from? It is not present and therefore it cannot be understood in order for it to be reproduced, and it has to be made up by something; the question is, what leads us to making up God? For what reasons do we force ourselves to believe in a higher being, specifically 'God', what gave us the impression that God was the correct answer? When we believe in things that are non-existent, purely fictional, is it belief in a perfect universe where this was possible? That would mean that God could be perfection, or the closest that we can get to understanding it. Why omnipotence? What leads us to worship this kind of power (not stupidity)? Isn't it a perfect situation for anyone, to know all and be everywhere? Imagine what you could do with that power, life would be a dream. We like sheep would follow someone if they could give us this power, and we do follow power in life as a species. Evidence of power in different forms exists, and if we are thinking of the most powerful, our evidence is the people and the vast universe that was created-- it's not 100% evidence, it takes a bit of rationality, but what evidence is 100%? The real product is the realest that anything can get to understanding something. Is God the closest we can get to perfection?

[iNow]

Where does the idea of God come from?

Imagination and social meme propagation through generations and local communities.

 

what leads us to making up God?

It depends on the person. There is no one right answer to this.

 

For what reasons do we force ourselves to believe in a higher being, specifically 'God'

Many of us do not.

 

what gave us the impression that God was the correct answer?

Many of us do not have that impression, but usually it's intuitive thinking taking the place of reason and rationality.

 

When we believe in things that are non-existent, purely fictional, is it belief in a perfect universe where this was possible?

This is word salad.

 

Is God the closest we can get to perfection?

Hardly, although both ideas are subjective so again there is no one right answer here.

[ccwebb]

If you look at many of the religions that had a pantheon of gods: ancient Egypt, ancient Greece or Rome, Norse; or even religions that worshiped the elements or nature, like many native Americans or wicca; even the religions based upon ancestry worship: many oriental beliefs or ancient Egypt... and lets not forget the darker religions, voodoo and 'black magic';

 

These type of religions always had the persona of the person praying placed into the deity. The deity wanted the blood, wants money, wants... desires... go get earthly possessions. The deities had the same desires as the people, they even bedded with us! It was also easy to blame the supernatural when something goes wrong, the perfect rationalization. "zeus got her pregnant." "devil made me do it" or "they cast a spell on me." All of these where created out of a want or desire to have something watch over them, or more powerful. When an answer was not known, instead of saying "I don't know lets figure it out" they came up with the most creative imagination possible. Then you had those with a little more common sense and created power by calling themselves 'god-kings' and so forth.

 

That is the most amazing concept about Him, Yahweh, I am, God... He didn't want mindless drones simply following orders. He gave a simple command, obey Him. He doesn't want a temple, we did. He allowed us to build Him one and when we disobeyed he tore it down. He never gave us a symbol, an effigy, a trinket to hold up. We begged for a king, and then began the kings over a thousand years that kept failing the people. Even the King David and his Son Solomon sinned horribly. He has never wanted blood, sacrifice, or money, land or power. Simply obedience. So to answer you question, before the beginning there was God. He has always been there, and always will. Since he made, everything, yes. He is perfection. We are just now beginning to understand the fullest extent of that. As we look deeper into the planck length, or further out into the clusters and filaments, we see the vastness of His perfection.

 

Side note... before quotes from the Old Testament about sacrifice and blood come forth, I ask you to read the whole story first. The sacrifice and blood was means of tithing, giving up the early possessions and giving yourself spiritual to The Lord. A means of asking for forgiveness. He always showed forgiveness and love, all we have to do is ask for it. The ultimate display of love is self-sacrifice. John 15:13

[s1eep]

Imagination and social meme propagation through generations and local communities.

 

It depends on the person. There is no one right answer to this.

 

Many of us do not.

 

Many of us do not have that impression, but usually it's intuitive thinking taking the place of reason and rationality.

 

This is word salad.

 

Hardly, although both ideas are subjective so again there is no one right answer here.

May I ask why that was word salad?

[iNow]

You asked if we believe in nonexistent/fictional things... if it was belief in a perfect universe where this was possible. What does that even mean? What are you trying to ask?

[s1eep]

You asked if we believe in nonexistent/fictional things... if it was belief in a perfect universe where this was possible. What does that even mean? What are you trying to ask?

Well. It is imaginable. Are we not composed of infinity?

[iNow]

Unfortunately, that did not make your question any clearer. Quite the opposite, really.

[Delbert]

It seems to me some have always assigned a god to things we don't understand or fully understand - Sun, Thunder and so on. I understand when electromagnetism was discovered it was deemed to be evidence of the spirit world.

 

I had them at my door a while ago. They started by asking if I'd seen the UK TV program 'stargazing live'? They conveyed their view of how wonderful it all was and were clearly about to convey their view of it forming part of god's works. I interrupted them and said that for about 2000 years they even denied a Sun centred solar system. We exchanged niceties for a few minutes after which they made parting salutations, which included: we're looking for people who can think.

[Phi for All]

We exchanged niceties for a few minutes after which they made parting salutations, which included: we're looking for people who can think.

 

Understandable, since they don't have any.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

But how will they know when they've found one?

[John Cuthber]

Well. It is imaginable. Are we not composed of infinity?

No

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Composition_of_the_human_body