Rakdos Posted February 28, 2005 Share Posted February 28, 2005 Is he a fraud? Discuss please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YT2095 Posted February 28, 2005 Share Posted February 28, 2005 impossible to determine, besides if I told you I`de have to Kill you I`ve seen several of his interveiws, his body language is congruent (appart from when he ellaborates a point), but that means nothing, if HE beleives it (false or otherwise) it will be congruent. I am a little curious that if what he says IS TRUE, then why hasn`t a gagging order been presented? basicly my opinion is that What he saw, may NOT have been what he THOUGHT he saw or his Interpretation of what he saw. there`s my 2 pence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newtonian Posted February 28, 2005 Share Posted February 28, 2005 I am a little curious that if what he says IS TRUE' date=' then why hasn`t a gagging order been presented?[/quote'] It would be counter productive to either silence him or eliminate him.It would confirm everything he spoke of was true. Which is why the course of action to take, is character asassination.He can say whatever he wants,as with all whistle-blowers.Without definitive proof he is just another fantasist! Were yet to hear the usual acceptance statement "yes he worked here...he was the janitor!". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YT2095 Posted February 28, 2005 Share Posted February 28, 2005 so you buy into this conspiricy idea then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newtonian Posted February 28, 2005 Share Posted February 28, 2005 Me YT. Never really considered it!.He seems to make sense,but so do alot of other fantasists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hellbender Posted February 28, 2005 Share Posted February 28, 2005 Is he a fraud? Discuss please. well, here's a shot in the dark: definitely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ydoaPs Posted February 28, 2005 Share Posted February 28, 2005 well lets see, his whole thing relys on element 115, which lastest a good time(.9s?), but not nearly enough for the uses he stated. as for the actual "science" behind it, i don't remember how he said it worked. edit: just found out that he never really went to MIT.http://www.ufomind.com/area51/people/lazar/hohsfield.html also, his site explaining how the craft worked won't be up again until april. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sayonara Posted February 28, 2005 Share Posted February 28, 2005 Who is this human meat brain, and why should I believe or not believe that he is a fraud? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hellbender Posted March 1, 2005 Share Posted March 1, 2005 Who is this human meat brain, and why should I believe or not believe that he is a fraud? good question. Who is he? care to provide a summary for us unenlightened? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ydoaPs Posted March 1, 2005 Share Posted March 1, 2005 he claims he worked at s-4 which is like super secret area 51 on steroids. he said he played with spaceships from aliens and they use element 115 as fuel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hellbender Posted March 1, 2005 Share Posted March 1, 2005 whats s-4? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ydoaPs Posted March 1, 2005 Share Posted March 1, 2005 http://www.zamandayolculuk.com/cetinbal/ProjectWebHome.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hellbender Posted March 1, 2005 Share Posted March 1, 2005 I think I have read this account before then. I'm pretty sure another guy (perhaps it was this "Bob Lazar") claimed to have worked at area 51 are claimed to be a physicist and claimed to see some pretty wierd junk. Of ocurse, found out ot be a fraud. I will look it up and post a little about it later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hellbender Posted March 2, 2005 Share Posted March 2, 2005 Here is a passage from the Book "Unexplained!", by Jerome Clark which, I might add, is not a skeptical source by any means. If there is a whisper of truth, however faint, to such (Lazar's Claims) tales, no one so far has succeeded in demonstrating as much. One could argue, of course, that this is becasue the secrets are well-kept and the proof kept well away from would-be whistleblowers. On the other hand, Lazar's interesting, well-told tales are not, alas to be believed. Investigators found that his claims about his educational background could not be verified; they also determined that Lazar was never a real physicist-or any sort of scientist, for that matter. Real physicists say that Lazar's use of scientific language is without sense or coherence. (pg. 28) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ydoaPs Posted March 29, 2005 Share Posted March 29, 2005 i find it funny that even the UFO nuts don't believe his crap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ydoaPs Posted March 29, 2005 Share Posted March 29, 2005 holy crap! he started unitednuclear. it even talks abouit his ufo bs on the site. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ydoaPs Posted March 30, 2005 Share Posted March 30, 2005 i wrote bob an e-mail and here is the response "Hi Nick, Actually Bob hates the topic of UFOs and his past experiences at the Nevada Test Site. He never discusses the topic anymore - not even with his wife. If you are interested in talking to Bob, I'd pick another topic.... -Frank" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hellbender Posted March 30, 2005 Share Posted March 30, 2005 For a person who hates UFO so much, he certainly had some nice stories about them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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