volatileworld Posted June 22, 2014 Posted June 22, 2014 Immanuel Kant in ''Critique of Pure Reason'' (1781) wanted to defend a priori knowledge of the world, that is mathematics, theoretical physics and metaphysics. If you are familiar with history of philosophy, Kant reacted to the famous debate between Rationalists (Leibniz, Descartes, Spinoza) and Empiricists (Locke and especially David Hume). Rationalists claimed that the source of knowledge is reason and innate ideas, while empiricists claimed that the source of knowledge is experience through the senses. Both are right from their perspective. Kant said that to speak about innate ideas in our mind which ground mathematics,physics and metaphysics (a priori knowledge) as rationalists did is lazy and unconvincing argument. David Hume has shown that everything comes from experience but Hume had problems with establishing mathematics on firm ground because maths speak of experience a priori. He could not explain how mathematics is possible! Kant tried to defend this a priori knowledge and so-called synthetic a priori judgments on which mathematics is based. In order to defend synthetic a priori knowledge (such as mathematics and theoretical physics) Kant tried to argue about the necessary conditions which make our experience possible. He argued that our understanding gives laws to nature and we know nature only how it appears to us, but not how it is in itself. All phenomena appear in the forms of our sensible intuition. These pure forms are space and time. That is, it is our mind which imposes space and time and orders and organizes our experience in it. Mathematics constructs objects in pure intuition of space and time. This way mathematics is possible a priori and yet necessary applies to the objects of experience since all objects of experience appear in space and time. Kant called mathematics the master of nature. According to Kant, our knowledge is grounded in the so-called synthetic unity of apperception or original unity of consciousness. It prescribes laws and structure to the manifold of sensible intuition which we acquire through the senses. According to Kant, even the laws of physics are determined by our faculty of understanding. Kant speaks about the categories of the understanding of which he gives 12, 4 groups having 3 categories. Kant claimed there must be 4 fundamental interactions. Kant had influenced such mathematicians as Henri Poincaré and David Hilbert. In philosophy of mathematics Kant belongs to intuitionist school. It is also interesting to study the logicist school, that is Frege, Russell. I claim that we will not understand ultimate reality unless we view everything as a system of mathematics, theoretical physics, philosophy of science and cognitive science. Cognitive science is of absolute importance in understanding ultimate reality because all our thoughts about the world originate in our brain. Philosophy of science and philosophy of mind cannot be left out if you want to understand the ultimate reality. It seems that philosophy of corporeal nature was buried by modern science! The true purpose of proper metaphysics of corporeal nature is to assist mathematics and physics. They should go together. It does not matter that people did not know about the Higgs boson or the mathematical description of general relativity 200 years ago. What Kant knew is fundamentals - how our knowledge about the world in general is possible. If you know the roots of your knowledge, the epistemological basis of mathematics and physics, everything else is just details. To understand ultimate reality we must understand how we understand things in the first place! That is, we must have the picture of our cognitive faculties in general. This yields the big picture of the Universe how it appears to us. That's why I took Kant who asked and provided answers in his work to the questions: ''how is mathematics possible?''. ''How is physics possible?''. ''How is metaphysics as science possible?''. How to deal with the fact that the Universe is infinitely divisible mathematically and in thought but it is not made of infinitely many parts? We know that smallest meaningful lenght is Planck lenght. Therefore it does not make sense that mathematics and our thoughts can divide space infinitely! Also Kant provides a good explanation why it is so. Kant claims that space and time is not a property of things as they are in themselves but rather projections of our mind. We see not things-in-themselves but appearances of them! That is, we see not strings, quantum loops, Leibniz's monads or whatever fundamental entity but how they appear in our consciousness (phenomena). All phenomena appear in forms of space and time, that is pure forms of our sensible intuition. Space and time is not a property of fundamental entities (things-in-themselves) but rather our mode of seeing (''intuiting'') them. Thus appearances can be divided infinitely mathematically and in thought and yet it does not mean that they are made of infinitely many parts. Because things-in-themselves/strings/monads are not actually divisible, the appearances of them in space and time are divisible. I argue that the ultimate reality is the grid of cells (grid of monads) which is mathematical structure of space and time from which our experience (phenomena in consciousness) emerges. I have used Kant's construction of corporeal nature together with philosophy of Fichte, Hegel and Leibniz to model our cognitive faculty of understanding as the grid of cells. Summary of the project: Kant’s transcendental philosophy argues about the necessary conditions to make our experience and a priori knowledge of the objects of experience (mathematics, theoretical physics, metaphysics) possible. Those conditions together with philosophy of Fichte, Hegel and Leibniz are used to model our cognitive framework (and the Universe as it appears to us) as quantum computer. The cognitive faculty of understanding is defined as the grid of cells where logical forms of thought relate cells together. The grid is transcendental unity of self-consciousness (synthetic unity of apperception) and is quantum entangled structure of space-time. Unit cellis the purest expression of reason (or consciousness). Reason is outside computation but it performs computations in this transcendentally ideal space (2D holographic grid of 6D cells) where cells perform quantization and our thoughts are formed by synthesis of cells. Time is present in every cell as the rate of it and represents an act of spontaneity ‘’I think”. The grid is the framework of natural language, mathematics and is unitary system of fundamental forcesof physics. Language reflects the world. All phenomena are described by mathematics. Unit cell is unit sensor and the grid is sensorium. Fundamental forces and our sense perception are related. The cells are in superposition of states from possible worlds. The grid is synthesized by the productive imagination under the categories of the understanding. In this process our apperception causes cells to take definite states from the superposition of states and conscious experience of empirically real objects in 3D space emerges. Curvature of empirically real space depends on the rate of cell (rate of time parameter). Self-conscious subjects are merely anautonomous parts of the Universal Quantum Computer (Universal Consciousness). Hegelian dialectic is the program which Universal Consciousness (Reason) runs by thinking itself. This program starts the Universe. Unit cell has two opposite values which alternate (expressing the dialectic nature of reason). The complexity in the world arises as patterns (schemata) of mutual limitations and determinations of cells producing greatest possible variety. The Universe is physical-moral system: both mathematics, fundamental forces of physics, metaphysics (theoretical reason) which construct the world and morality (practical reason) which describes how we ought to act in the world originate from the same source - Hegel’s ”the Idea” (Reason). Many aspects of the model are discussed such as the origin of space and time, our a priori knowledge (logic, mathematics, physics, limits of computability), how the world is described by mathematics, unity of the fundamental forces, gravity in relation to information processing, the arrow of time, the nature of quantum phenomena, universal grammar of natural languages, reconcilation of physicalism and idealism, the possibility of free will in deterministic Universe, our action in relation to perception, theology and our place in the Universe in general. Since the grid is invariant structure within which all our knowledge and experience is produced, it is considered as the basis for Theory of Everything. With it we achieve what Hegel called ”Absolute Knowledge” – the times of full self-consciousness, rational freedom and humanity in harmony with the Universe. My project can be accessed here: https://www.academia.edu/7347240/Our_Cognitive_Framework_as_Quantum_Computer_Leibnizs_Theory_of_Monads_under_Kants_Epistemology_and_Hegelian_Dialectic What do you think? I think that Kant and post-Kantian German Idealism (such as Fichte, Hegel) can assist modern physics and mathematics in understanding the ultimate reality. Any more ideas about German Idealism in the context of modern science?
studiot Posted June 22, 2014 Posted June 22, 2014 "What do we think?" Too long and too dense for an internet forum, IMHO, no offence meant. How about a potted appetiser?
cladking Posted June 22, 2014 Posted June 22, 2014 (edited) Rationalists claimed that the source of knowledge is reason and innate ideas, while empiricists claimed that the source of knowledge is experience through the senses. I'd have been very happy to read the whole thing but stopped here. The source of most knowledge (other than aunt Edna's birthday) is language. Mebbe I'll go back and read it but I will have very little agreement with it. Edited to add that I short changed the post. It's interesting. I may get back to some of these ideas. Edited June 22, 2014 by cladking
hoola Posted June 22, 2014 Posted June 22, 2014 (edited) as to dealing with maths being infinitely divisible and reality being limited by plank length, is that the universe has only so much time to divide itself up. I say everything doesn't come from experience, the universe is a hazy view (at best) of a mathematical object, translated in algorithmicly compressed form, into a bit of a hologram, with limited resolution. I have my 4 fundamentals.....void/oneness, chaos/logic. These allow an exposition of information as they evolve from one to the next, to allow lighter substances such as "concepts" to provide presentations of what the concept concerns....or "heavier" substances. Namely void to chaos to logic, then the maths, then reality. I say the "things in themselves" are divisible also, as they are made of individual numbers, a finer grain structure than the "wobbly" quantum or plank lengths...or averaged approximations of the driving information streams, which are themselves grainy due to finer divisions. I see the divisions always have some finer strucure, all the way back to the void, which has 2 parts. The void and it's brightly painted "1" on the side..... The maths stem from the appearance of the singularity of the void once logic allowed a stability of a description of said singularity, as logic allowed under the rubric of the geometry of the spherical point void, the algorithm PI. Of course, I see an increase in complexity as reality evolved from concept to chaos, then a large a large decrease in complexity, only due to the fact that primary chaos information was unstable in value (informal information), having no logic yet to restrain it...then as logic allowed math (formal information), complexity increased once again, and still is. Evidence for this I see as the expansion of the universe and sentient awareness. ...volitile world, thanks for the good entry... as the maths evloved from the algorithm of PI, most of the information was illogic. The small remains of logic based information went to construct the universe. The illogic still exists within the IBH, and is a necessary component of PI, and more than just a place holder until the information completions sets describe an electron, for example. The illogical "foam" in the middle allows for the expression of the foams down here, such as foaming at the mouth right wingers....tomorrow's lawn sprinklers Edited June 23, 2014 by hoola
Fred Champion Posted June 23, 2014 Posted June 23, 2014 Mathematics was (is) invented, not discovered. It is therefore subjective, not objective. My memory fails me. Who was the well known mathematician who stated that one cannot prove anything with mathematics and then proceeded to use mathematics to prove it?
Ophiolite Posted June 23, 2014 Posted June 23, 2014 The OP would benefit from: a) An abstract. b) Rigorous editing to remove surplus words. c) More effective use of paragraphs. With that done, several members would likely make the effort to read it.
rktpro Posted June 26, 2014 Posted June 26, 2014 I feel source of knowledge is- Through someone else's words Through literature Through experience Through assumption (as when I see smoke from a forest, I assume fire and act accordingly) I think my list is exhaustive.
Acme Posted June 30, 2014 Posted June 30, 2014 ... My memory fails me. Who was the well known mathematician who stated that one cannot prove anything with mathematics and then proceeded to use mathematics to prove it? fred, wasn't that kurt godel? Whether Fred had Gödel in mind or not, Gödel did not say what hoola said Fred might have said he forgot that some mathematician might have said. What Gödel proved was ... that in any consistent formal system F within which a certain amount of arithmetic can be carried out, there are statements of the language of F which can neither be proved nor disproved in F. According to the second incompleteness theorem, such a formal system cannot prove that the system itself is consistent (assuming it is indeed consistent) ... source ... How about a potted appetiser? I'll have the pork please.
Fred Champion Posted July 2, 2014 Posted July 2, 2014 Yes, it was Godel that I couldn't remember. Went through Godel a long time back. Took me more than one time. Difficult but very worthwhile for anyone interested in that sort of thing. Mostly what I remember was the humor I saw in the idea as I posted. The logic is there of course, but it is with me now only as the beauty of a sunset. Remembering a memory is not the same as remembering.
Mirosh1981 Posted July 16, 2020 Posted July 16, 2020 (edited) On 6/22/2014 at 1:21 PM, studiot said: "What do we think?" Too long and too dense for an internet forum, IMHO, no offence meant. How about a potted appetiser? And if so? VIDEO REMOVED Attempt to screen (translate text into images) Edited July 16, 2020 by Strange
Strange Posted July 16, 2020 Posted July 16, 2020 3 hours ago, Mirosh1981 said: And if so? VIDEO REMOVED Attempt to screen (translate text into images) ! Moderator Note Rule 2.7 requires you to say what you want to say here not just link to a video.
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