Deepak Kapur Posted June 28, 2014 Posted June 28, 2014 It is said nothing can happen without time and some even say that time was even present before the big bang ( otherwise an activity called big bang could never have happened).... So, what created time.......some esoteric/unknown entity or activity? Are such questions worth dicussing....to begin with?
Ten oz Posted June 28, 2014 Posted June 28, 2014 I don't view time as a force. I view time as a messurement of movement. If nothing moves on the atomic level then there is no time. The scale of time messurement starts just above zero and ends at the speed of light. Anything above or below is beyond the messureable scale. With electricity electrons moving from atom to atom is voltage and current. No electron movement from atom to atom no electricity. I see time similiar to that. Movement of and within atoms relative to other atoms is time.
dimreepr Posted June 28, 2014 Posted June 28, 2014 It is said nothing can happen without time and some even say that time was even present before the big bang ( otherwise an activity called big bang could never have happened).... So, what created time.......some esoteric/unknown entity or activity? Are such questions worth dicussing....to begin with? Maybe things happen, regardless of time.
Deepak Kapur Posted June 29, 2014 Author Posted June 29, 2014 @ Ten oz i was talking to a person and i also told him something that hinted that time arises out of motion only.... I said, 'when i push a ball it moves, when i push it harder, it moves further....where is time in all this...' He said, ' when you push a ball.............for how long?' What should be my answer to his question...
Ten oz Posted June 29, 2014 Posted June 29, 2014 @ Ten oz i was talking to a person and i also told him something that hinted that time arises out of motion only.... I said, 'when i push a ball it moves, when i push it harder, it moves further....where is time in all this...' He said, ' when you push a ball.............for how long?' What should be my answer to his question... Interesting question. The ball may roll after you are done pushing. How long you push is not time in your metaphor. Time for the ball would be total distance traveled by speed. The ball may travel a longer distance in less time if moving quickly or a shorter distance in more time if moving slowly.
Deepak Kapur Posted June 29, 2014 Author Posted June 29, 2014 Interesting question. The ball may roll after you are done pushing. How long you push is not time in your metaphor. Time for the ball would be total distance traveled by speed. The ball may travel a longer distance in less time if moving quickly or a shorter distance in more time if moving slowly. Actually, the person wanted to say that the 'cause of motion' cannot happen without time...... So, what should i say to this.....
Ten oz Posted June 29, 2014 Posted June 29, 2014 Actually, the person wanted to say that the 'cause of motion' cannot happen without time...... So, what should i say to this..... I compared time to electricity in my first response. No electron flow no electricity. However you can have the potential between two points for electricity without having any electron flow. The two points on a battery have a potential but electricity doesn't flow until those points are connected by a conductor. I view time this way. There can be a potential for time but until matter moves the clock doesn't start. As for what creates motion or exploits the time potential; time messures movement of matter from a fraction above zero (no movement) to 99.9% of the speed of light. So photon particles or any yet undiscovered faster than the speed of light traveler would be capable of creating motion without time. They would be the conductor joining positive to negative on the battery. 1
Deepak Kapur Posted June 29, 2014 Author Posted June 29, 2014 I compared time to electricity in my first response. No electron flow no electricity. However you can have the potential between two points for electricity without having any electron flow. The two points on a battery have a potential but electricity doesn't flow until those points are connected by a conductor. I view time this way. There can be a potential for time but until matter moves the clock doesn't start. As for what creates motion or exploits the time potential; time messures movement of matter from a fraction above zero (no movement) to 99.9% of the speed of light. So photon particles or any yet undiscovered faster than the speed of light traveler would be capable of creating motion without time. They would be the conductor joining positive to negative on the battery. ???????????? ( a simple answer is always good,that tries to explain the problem at hand...) So, what causes my hand to move.......my neurons? What causes the motion of neurons...my thought????? Does it mean thought is beyond time..i.e. it does not require time for it's articulation/motion? In any case it seems, time comes first and motion comes afterwards.
Ten oz Posted June 29, 2014 Posted June 29, 2014 Simple answers are often a matter of perspective. Thought is chemical interactions. Those chemicals have a potential response. The potential for a thought can exist without time but a thought itself can not. Besides all the atoms in all the matter in your brain are moving. Time exists for your thoughts. You can not think of anything without time.
Nicholas Kang Posted June 30, 2014 Posted June 30, 2014 Your body reacts 300 milliseconds earlier than your brain. How do you relate consciousness with time?
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