HoneyRazwell Posted June 28, 2014 Posted June 28, 2014 It is a total myth and one of the most persistent. William McComas and John Denker have gone to great lengths to counter this myth and educate people. The amount of laymen who buy into "The Scientific Method" MYTH is appaling! http://www.av8n.com/physics/scientific-methods.htm -7
imatfaal Posted June 28, 2014 Posted June 28, 2014 Never in the field of human understanding has so much straw been used to make so many straw-men to counter so few real world contentions. 4
Cap'n Refsmmat Posted June 28, 2014 Posted June 28, 2014 I prefer Paul Feyerabend's arguments in Against Method, where he points out that any rule you might propose to define the "scientific method" has probably been violated by scores of very notable scientists. For example, we talk about requiring new theories to be able to explain phenomena already explained by the existing theories, but Galilean relativity and heliocentrism were accepted long before they were able to do this. He certainly doesn't complain about the fonts and images used on posters of the scientific method. 1
EdEarl Posted June 28, 2014 Posted June 28, 2014 There Is NO Such Thing As "The Scientific Method" seems misleading. The provided link seems to be more about: There is not A Scientific Method, rather doing science is an art with many methods and pitfalls.
Ophiolite Posted June 28, 2014 Posted June 28, 2014 The amount of laymen who buy into "The Scientific Method" MYTH is appaling! What I find appalling are the number of people who think it is acceptable grammar and usage to say the amount of people. The ignorance of the distinction between continuous amounts and discrete quantities is a sign of third rate education. By association it calls into question any arguments the writer might use. 1
chadn737 Posted June 29, 2014 Posted June 29, 2014 Science proceeds through many processes, this is true. That does not mean that it is not guided by an overarching guideline which we call the scientific method.
Ophiolite Posted June 29, 2014 Posted June 29, 2014 Ed Earl has made an important point that merits expansion. The so-called scientific method is an attempt to detail a theoretical, almost Platonic, ideal. It is an attempt to capture the heart of what scientists do, not as they do it, but as it might be done if stripped of all subjective actions, application of dogma, wholly wrong turnings and the like. It is step by step set of instructions for gaining scientific knowledge. Strongly implied is that each step in the process must be followed precisely and in sequence. Science, as actually practiced, is more akin to a recipe in which the chef adds their own preferences and tweeks, and uses the ingredients on hand, not necessarily all of those in the recipe book. 1
HoneyRazwell Posted June 29, 2014 Author Posted June 29, 2014 seems misleading. The provided link seems to be more about: There is not A Scientific Method, rather doing science is an art with many methods and pitfalls. Never said otherwise. You're just mad I showed what you believed all these years false.... You should be happy. very unscientific attiude, isn't it? What I find appalling are the number of people who think it is acceptable grammar and usage to say the amount of people. The ignorance of the distinction between continuous amounts and discrete quantities is a sign of third rate education. By association it calls into question any arguments the writer might use. YOU have a third rate education. By the fact you believed in "The Scientific Method." YOU should have been able to figure out that this is NOT the way Einstein, Newton, Darwin or Filippenko go about their work. You're just mad I showeed what you believed all these years to be false. So, you start arguments and spew insults... This is not very scientific attitude , is it? You self - procalimed scientists are hypocrites. As Paul davies points out: Scientists are JUST AS BIASED as any other pforession. SCIENCE IS NOT IOBJECTIVE. IN FACT, THERE IS A STRONG SUBJECTIVE ELEMENT- even in interpretation of research. The overwhelming portion of the 7 billion or so human beings who currently live on earth ERRONEOUSLY believe in some FARCE called "The Scientific Method." Never said otherwise. You're just mad I showed what you believed all these years false.... You should be happy. very unscientific attiude, isn't it? YOU have a third rate education, by the fact that you believed in "The Scientific Method." YOU should have been able to figure out that this is NOT the way Einstein, Newton, Darwin or Filippenko went about their work. You're just mad I showed what you erroneously believed all these years to be false. Therefore, you start arguments and spew insults... This is not very scientific attitude , is it? You self - procalimed scientists are hypocrites. As Paul Davies points out: Scientists are JUST AS BIASED as any other pforession. SCIENCE IS NOT IOBJECTIVE. IN FACT, THERE IS A STRONG SUBJECTIVE ELEMENT- even in interpretation of research. The overwhelming portion of the 7 billion or so human beings who currently live on earth ERRONEOUSLY believe in some FARCE called "The Scientific Method." -2
EdEarl Posted June 29, 2014 Posted June 29, 2014 To argue with a man who has renounced the use and authority of reason, and whose philosophy consists in holding humanity in contempt, is like administering medicine to the dead, or endeavoring to convert an atheist by scripture. ― Thomas Paine, The American Crisis
HoneyRazwell Posted June 29, 2014 Author Posted June 29, 2014 (edited) Never in the field of human understanding has so much straw been used to make so many straw-men to counter so few real world contentions. No straw here.... No straw whatsoever. Just a proper CORRECTION and REFUTATION the crap MISINFORMATION that ALL of you believe.... You are just angry because I totally busted your world apart. Professional science educators, such as Dr. William McComas are fighting vigorously to COUNTER the totally false garbage information people such as yourself put out and publicly promote..... I have noticed any time I try to correct the crap about this topic that uneducated weirdo Internet people have a verbally violent reactions to correct educational material... All of you demonstrate this. Look at the -7 reaction.... Hey Everybody On This Forum : DON'T get angry with me just because all of YOU learned it WRONG! PLEASE EDUCATE YOUR MISINFORMED YOURSELVES! Here is a great place to START: Advertising links removed by Moderator Edited June 29, 2014 by Phi for All -4
dimreepr Posted June 29, 2014 Posted June 29, 2014 Finally, we have a legitimate candidate for the position of resident troll.
HoneyRazwell Posted June 29, 2014 Author Posted June 29, 2014 Finally, we have a legitimate candidate for the position of resident troll. They were rude to me first. NO TROLL. I am only an EDUCATOR of misinformed people....
Phi for All Posted June 29, 2014 Posted June 29, 2014 Never said otherwise. You're just mad I showed what you believed all these years false.... You should be happy. very unscientific attiude, isn't it? YOU have a third rate education. By the fact you believed in "The Scientific Method." YOU should have been able to figure out that this is NOT the way Einstein, Newton, Darwin or Filippenko go about their work. You're just mad I showeed what you believed all these years to be false. So, you start arguments and spew insults... This is not very scientific attitude , is it? You self - procalimed scientists are hypocrites. As Paul davies points out: Scientists are JUST AS BIASED as any other pforession. SCIENCE IS NOT IOBJECTIVE. IN FACT, THERE IS A STRONG SUBJECTIVE ELEMENT- even in interpretation of research. The overwhelming portion of the 7 billion or so human beings who currently live on earth ERRONEOUSLY believe in some FARCE called "The Scientific Method." ! Moderator Note HoneyRazwell, you are violating the rules you agreed to when you joined. Civility is not an option at SFN. We don't attack people here, only ideas and behavior. Further, you're ignoring the actual replies to your ranting, in favor of your very narrow interpretation of the methodology of science. This is most definitely a strawman argument. Your claim of 7 billion people all thinking the same thing is equally irrational and fallacious. Don't persist in these lines of attack. Don't respond to this modnote in thread; just report it if you disagree with it, so we don't derail the thread further.
imatfaal Posted June 29, 2014 Posted June 29, 2014 ! Moderator Note HoneyRazwell I have hidden your latest message - we do not tolerate foul language and abusive behaviour.
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