radicalsymmetry Posted July 28, 2014 Posted July 28, 2014 (edited) What would you ask such a person? Edited July 28, 2014 by radicalsymmetry 1
John Cuthber Posted July 28, 2014 Posted July 28, 2014 I'd start with Are you on medication? Have you experienced other "visions"? Did anyone else see what you did?
Greg H. Posted July 28, 2014 Posted July 28, 2014 Did you get any clarification on the whole Do unto others thing, because a surprising number of people seem to be confused over that.
Phi for All Posted July 28, 2014 Posted July 28, 2014 Do we only get one question? (D'oh! ) What did this person do that makes you think it could only be God? I'm trying to think of something a god could do that would convince me it was a god. In the end though, I don't think anything is going to be proof he is a god, but lots of things could be shown to have natural explanations, so it's not necessarily a god and a more rational explanation exists.
John Cuthber Posted July 28, 2014 Posted July 28, 2014 (edited) I don't mind only having one question. Imagine I want to ask the 3 questions listed above I can ask them one question. What do you get if you add up one if your are on medication and two if you have had other visions and four if anyone saw you? The answer will be a number between 0 and 7 from which I can deduce the replies to the original questions. Unfortunately that doesn't really help me with the other question I'd like to ask which is. What evidence can you offer to prove to someone else that you witnessed God? Edited July 28, 2014 by John Cuthber
Phi for All Posted July 28, 2014 Posted July 28, 2014 like Swami Vivekanda said, : Show me! Show you what? What could someone show you that would convince you they were God? Actually, God could probably keep it pretty simple. Whisk me to the moon and back. The real key is, would God be willing to show this to everybody who asks? Plenty of people claim miracles, nobody can ever get them to work consistently. 1
radicalsymmetry Posted July 28, 2014 Author Posted July 28, 2014 (edited) I think you all already know that evidence would not be provided. You could be asking some questions on the most complicated, wildest, metaphysics and the nature of "god" but you choose not to do so. You ask very simple questions which, even if answered, do not provide any worthwhile information for your life. Why not ask a worthwhile question ? Edited July 28, 2014 by radicalsymmetry
dimreepr Posted July 28, 2014 Posted July 28, 2014 (edited) I think you all already know that evidence would not be provided. You could be asking some questions on the most complicated, wildest, metaphysics and the nature of "god" but you choose not to do so. So what question would you ask? Edited July 28, 2014 by dimreepr
radicalsymmetry Posted July 28, 2014 Author Posted July 28, 2014 (edited) Are you on medication? It's not a bad question but you could ask "list all drugs taken in the last ten years prior to contact with God"... that would be a better question. Have you experienced other "visions"? You presume a type of "vision". What if someone's experience does not fit into your pre-conceived notions ? It would make your question a pretty bad question. Did anyone else see what you did? What makes you think that God is seen with the eyes? Again a pretty bad question. Oh, you mean did anyone witness you when you witnessed god? --that's a pretty good question I must admit Did you get any clarification on the whole Do unto others thing, because a surprising number of people seem to be confused over that This is a basically a good question but you're asking about something biblical when you could be asking something about god and not some book.... therefore again! a pretty bad question. What did this person do that makes you think it could only be God? Good question if god is a person - Bad question if god is not a person.... therefore again! a pretty bad question. What evidence can you offer to prove to someone else that you witnessed God? What evidence can you provide to prove you’re not conjuring up all your life like a dream ? Edited July 28, 2014 by radicalsymmetry
John Cuthber Posted July 28, 2014 Posted July 28, 2014 It's not a bad question but you could ask "list all drugs taken in the last ten years prior to contact with God"... that would be a better question. So you presume a type of "vision". What if someone's experience does not fit into your pre-conceived notions ? Again a pretty bad question. What makes you think that God is seen with the eyes? Again a pretty bad question. This is a basically a good question but you're asking about something biblical when you could be asking something about god and not some book.... therefore again! a pretty bad question. Bad question as you presume god is a person. What evidence can you provide to prove you’re not conjuring up all your life like a dream ? I think you are taking things literally too often. I think you should read some of those things as if they had quotes so "Did anyone else 'see' what you did?" or "What did this 'person' do that makes you think it could only be God?"
radicalsymmetry Posted July 28, 2014 Author Posted July 28, 2014 I think you are taking things literally too often. I think you should read some of those things as if they had quotes so "Did anyone else 'see' what you did?" or "What did this 'person' do that makes you think it could only be God?" Well said. Thanks. So what question would you ask? I never thought about it, I never really considered anything like that could be real, so I can't answer.
dimreepr Posted July 28, 2014 Posted July 28, 2014 I never thought about it, I never really considered anything like that could be real, so I can't answer. Yet you ask and find fault in others questions? Ok here’s one: It would seem that in some religions entry into heaven requires, not only, adherence to that particular doctrine, but also belief in the deity; so why is hell so much easier to enter even when adherence is maintained but belief is not?
Ten oz Posted July 28, 2014 Posted July 28, 2014 I am not sure what would qualify as "witnessed god" but I know and have known many people who claim a variety of supernatural impressions or interactions that they insist are proof of God. I don't waste my time asking them anything. 1
radicalsymmetry Posted July 28, 2014 Author Posted July 28, 2014 (edited) Yet you ask and find fault in others questions? Ok here’s one: It would seem that in some religions entry into heaven requires, not only, adherence to that particular doctrine, but also belief in the deity; so why is hell so much easier to enter even when adherence is maintained but belief is not? I see where you're coming from. When I was about 8 years old and had grown enough to operate from my own embryonic moral framework I examined this subject briefly but well enought to make up my mind and concluded that religion wasn't for me ever. I am not sure what would qualify as "witnessed god" but I know and have known many people who claim a variety of supernatural impressions or interactions that they insist are proof of God. I don't waste my time asking them anything. indeed what's the point? If you wish to learn about such matters then you could read a book and not be subjected to your friends "proof". If you had the same experience as your friend would you yourself have a true faith or would your own experience not be proof enough ? Why would your friend lie to you? Is it not enough that your friend assures you that his experience is real? If you doubt his experience why not go further and doubt your own experience of reality at this very moment! Edited July 28, 2014 by radicalsymmetry
harshgoel1975 Posted August 4, 2014 Posted August 4, 2014 Ha ha ha...... . what question you ask a person who ate ginger.. no matter .. in whatever way he may define the taste of ginger.. unless you ate it yourself .. you won't understand ..just a simple thought...
PeterJ Posted August 29, 2014 Posted August 29, 2014 I would ask, 'Are you sure?'. It makes no sense that God can be seen, and when He is seen, as in Attar's famous 'Conference of the Birds, 'He' turns out to be 'Me'. This idea that God is something apart from us, or apart from anything at all, is logically incoherent in my view. Having said this, I do believe that it is possible to genuinely and almost justifiably believe that one has met God due to the extreme nature of some 'spiritual' experiences. But in the end I'd be with the Buddhists, for whom God would be a misinterpreted meditative experience.
Thorham Posted August 30, 2014 Posted August 30, 2014 I would ask nothing, and tell them 'good for you'.
MonDie Posted August 31, 2014 Posted August 31, 2014 "How do you know what God looks like?" They're more likely to claim to have witnessed divine intervention rather than God himself.
Lucius E.E Posted September 1, 2014 Posted September 1, 2014 (edited) I am not sure what would qualify as "witnessed god" but I know and have known many people who claim a variety of supernatural impressions or interactions that they insist are proof of God. I don't waste my time asking them anything. I would do the same. However in regards to this question; if someone told me they "saw" god, whatever that may imply, I would be quite curious as to what they meant by it, and if they were under the influence of any mind altering substances. As I know that a god doesn't exist I would respond by letting them know they're delusional and need to get a grip on reality. Edited September 1, 2014 by Lucius E.E
PeterJ Posted September 1, 2014 Posted September 1, 2014 I would not disagree with your scepetical approach, but it is not true that you know God does not exist. Such a claim is no different from a claim to have met him. To paraphrase the OP: What question would you ask someone who claims to know that God does not exist? 1
Mad For Science Posted October 17, 2015 Posted October 17, 2015 What evidence can you provide to convince me that what you claim is true?
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