burgess Posted August 8, 2014 Posted August 8, 2014 Today I want to share what Is BODMAS Rule & How to use it? BODMAS rule decides the order of operations for add, subtract, multiply, divide, etc as below shown B-Brackets (do all operations contained in the brackets first) O-Orders (powers and square roots etc) D-Division M-Multiplication A-Addition S- Subtraction Lets see an example and check how BODMASS Rule works 30-(2*6+15/3) +8*3/6 Step1: Brackets 2*6+15/3 = 12+5 = 17 Step2: Division 30-17+8*1/2 Step3: Multiplication 30-17+4 Step 4: Addition and Subtraction 30-17+4=17 20+30-5/4*2+ (1+6) (5-6/4)+9*7 1-6*(2+9)/8 BODMAS Rule is very helpful in solving various algebra math problems.
pzkpfw Posted August 8, 2014 Posted August 8, 2014 (edited) I would argue that multiplication and division are of equal precedence (they're basically the same thing) so are done left to right, in the absence of modifiers like brackets. The same goes for addition/subtraction. After all, if you really wanted to do addition before subtraction, the step 30-17+4 would come to 30-21 giving 9, not your (which I think is correct) 17. i.e. BO{DM}{AS} So ... where you show the end bit as 8*3/6 then 8*1/2 giving 4; I think that ought to be 8*3/6 then 24/6 giving (luckily the same in this context) 4. I'd show the thing, in very long form, as: 30 - (2 * 6 + 15 / 3) + 8 * 3 / 6 = 30 - (12 + 5) + 8 * 3 / 6 = 30 - 17 + 8 * 3 / 6 = 30 - 17 + 24 / 6 = 30 - 17 + 4 = 13 + 4 = 17 Edited August 8, 2014 by pzkpfw
harshgoel1975 Posted August 9, 2014 Posted August 9, 2014 I think writing 30-(2*6+15/3) +8*3/6 should be written as 30 -((2*6)+(15/3))+(8*(3/6)) now life is simple and more mathematical... just open the inner brackets first then bracket then follow any method you want.... problem here is that we don't put sufficient brackets and make the sum complicated.. then we try to put some rule around that to solve it.. unnecessarily.. 30 -((2*6)+(15/3))+(8*(3/6)) 30-(12+5)+(8*0.5) 30-17+4 17 no wonder why some kid hate maths...
ajb Posted August 9, 2014 Posted August 9, 2014 BODMAS does not really help you solve anything, it is guide to notational convention and nothing deeper. That said, it is useful when learning basic algabra.
harshgoel1975 Posted August 9, 2014 Posted August 9, 2014 BODMAS does not really help you solve anything, it is guide to notational convention and nothing deeper. That said, it is useful when learning basic algabra. But not following it would give incorrect results...so why not use right convention...
ajb Posted August 9, 2014 Posted August 9, 2014 But not following it would give incorrect results...so why not use right convention... But how can a convention be right? What you mean is that we have all agreed on a convention and that BODMAS is a nice way of remembering that convention. But there is no reason why I could not apply some other notation or keep similar notation but change conventions. My mathematics would be just as right as yours, notaion is important but it is not the same as the mathematics itself, we would both be describing basic algebra. However, it may be difficult to compare results without some care. Now, that is not that I am suggesting we change conventions or notaion here for basic algebrs, the point is we have picked some notations and conventions alongside the notation.
harshgoel1975 Posted August 9, 2014 Posted August 9, 2014 But how can a convention be right? if a convention gives meaning without ambiguity it is right BODMAS is a nice way of remembering that convention. But there is no reason why I could not apply some other notation or keep similar notation but change conventions. correct is better than nice in nutshell...30-(2*6+15/3) +8*3/6 can be better written as 30 -((2*6)+(15/3))+(8*(3/6)) as it gives unambiguous result ... just a two cent idea....
ajb Posted August 9, 2014 Posted August 9, 2014 if a convention gives meaning without ambiguity it is right All convenions should do that. in nutshell...30-(2*6+15/3) +8*3/6 can be better written as 30 -((2*6)+(15/3))+(8*(3/6)) as it gives unambiguous result ... just a two cent idea.... I agree, using parentheses can remove ambiguity, or at least when used with BODMAS! I am not arguing against the standard notation, parentheses and BODMAS for basic algebra, I am just pointing out that it is all tied into conventions relating to notation.
harshgoel1975 Posted August 10, 2014 Posted August 10, 2014 I agree, using parentheses can remove ambiguity, or at least when used with BODMAS! I am not arguing against the standard notation, parentheses and BODMAS for basic algebra, I am just pointing out that it is all tied into conventions relating to notation. Thanks...so I suggest mathematical societies to review the notation if not already reviewed..in this context...
Royston Posted August 10, 2014 Posted August 10, 2014 Thanks...so I suggest mathematical societies to review the notation if not already reviewed..in this context... I can think of a number of conventions (within maths and especially physics) that could do with an overhaul. The problem with doing this, is that could become more of a hindrance than a help. Conventions ensure that everyone is on the same page, regardless of whether they're unintuitive or more cumbersome to use. I can understand why this seems a little silly. In this instance, if adding extra brackets reduces ambiguity (or helps) in your calculations, then use it. At this level of algebra it really doesn't matter.
Daedalus Posted August 11, 2014 Posted August 11, 2014 (edited) Sure BODMAS could help you remember the order of operations, but why not let FEMA manage the emergency: Functions / GroupingsExponentials / Roots / LogarithmsMultiplications / DivisionsAdditions / Subtractions Edited August 11, 2014 by Daedalus 1
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