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Can H2 and Cl2 gases be bonded together to form 2Hcl and how?

With out explosion please.

Edited by Romix
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It is prepared industrially by the combustion of Hydrogen, in Chlorine, I don't think I would have the equipment at home. Making Chlorine Gas and Hydrogen isn't a problem they use an acid burner as far as I know.




			
		
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Well as the reaction you describe is a highly energetic one (comparable to that of H2 + O2) the setup exploding in your face is very likely.

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Well as the reaction you describe is a highly energetic one (comparable to that of H2 + O2) the setup exploding in your face is very likely.

 

Exactly an acid burner is basically a strong furnace and they light the hydrogen gas and chlorine to form HCL. Adding Hydrogen to Chlorine does nothing without a flame or UV lamp light. UV lamps are easy to make it is just an ordinary lamp through a filter.

Edited by fiveworlds
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"UV lamps are easy to make it is just an ordinary lamp through a filter."

Not really.

The interesting problems with making a H2 +Cl2 burner are that, if you don't carry the heat away, the reaction is reversible and also the mixture of gases is horribly corrosive.

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Not really. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_light

 

The lamp has a violet filter material, either on the bulb or in a separate glass filter in the lamp housing,

Wood's Glass

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wood%27s_glass

 

Wood's glass is an optical filter glass invented in 1903 by American physicist Robert Williams Wood (1868–1955) which allows ultraviolet and infrared light to pass through while blocking most visible light

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infrared_cut-off_filter

Edited by fiveworlds
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I'm well aware of wood's glass, but, unless you have a lamp that emits UV in the first place (and most incandescent lamps don't) the filter won't add UV.

They are bits of glass, and not endowed with magical powers.

 

If the light from your lamp won't trigger the reaction between H2 an Cl2 than adding a filter will not help.

Even if it emit contain enough UV to start the reaction, it will do it even better (i.e. from further away) without the filter.

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Do you have any idea what you are on about?

 

You started by saying

"UV lamps are easy to make it is just an ordinary lamp through a filter."

And that's simply not true.

Then you tried to argue about it by pretending that a bit of glass magically makes visible light into UV.

Then, to top it off you cite something which, since it's made from PET will do a damned good job of blocking UV.

Even if any UV does manage to get through it's hardly " just an ordinary lamp ", it's the Sun.

 

Wouldn't it be better if you just stopped talking nonsense?

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WTF has that got to do with the price of fish?

 

Anyway, in reality (as opposed to wherever you are) here's what they make the lamp out of

"Materials:
*PET soda bottle
*Galvanized Iron (GI) sheet
*Rubber sealant
*Bleach
*Filtered Water"
Do you see that PET is on the list there and the benzoquinone isn't?
Did you somehow imagine that citing a spurious wiki page would suddenly make it look like you know what you are on about?
Anyway, the easy way to get hold of HCl is- as with a lot of things- to buy it.
However, giving toxic corrosive chemicals to people who clearly have't a clue what they are on about might not be thought a good idea.

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