Relative Posted October 9, 2014 Author Share Posted October 9, 2014 (edited) OK. Better. But the "sea of EMR" and your repeated use of the word "constant" is misleading. There is light going to and from objects all the time. It is not "static". Yes, we see through reflection. But there is no "constant" to be different from. There is continuously changing light arriving at your eyes. Emr has to go into your eyes yes, but is does not have to reflect of mass into your eyes. Take a rainbow for example, put the rainbow in the empty container with the emr, you see several changes of energy/frequency by refraction, the energy frequency surrounding the rainbow, the transparent emr, remains at a set frequency a constant.<unvariable,unchanged>? you see the rainbow because the rest of the cubic volume of emr is transparent, you simply see through it? Emr reflecting of a surface, or rather bouncing of it , propagates, the different frequencies, spectrum colors been a difference in energy Edited October 9, 2014 by Relative Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strange Posted October 9, 2014 Share Posted October 9, 2014 but is does not have to reflect of mass into your eyes. Take a rainbow for example, A rainbow consists of light reflected from mass (rain drops). the transparent emr, remains at a set frequency a constant. Transparent is the wrong word. There is no set frequency. It is not constant. Apart from that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Relative Posted October 9, 2014 Author Share Posted October 9, 2014 as a result of force, As a result, the wave-fronts begin to bunch up, making spectrum colors? A rainbow consists of light reflected from mass (rain drops). Transparent is the wrong word. There is no set frequency. It is not constant. Apart from that... Yes I am aware how a rainbow works, a raindrop changes the amplitude of the energy of emr? There is no set frequency. It is not constant. You consider the frequency oscillates? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strange Posted October 9, 2014 Share Posted October 9, 2014 (edited) as a result of force, As a result, the wave-fronts begin to bunch up, making spectrum colors? You cannot apply a force to light; it has no mass. Yes I am aware how a rainbow works, a raindrop changes the amplitude of the energy of emr? No, it just reflects and refracts the light sending different frequencies in slightly different directions. It doesn't change the energy or cause it to "bunch up". Edited October 9, 2014 by Strange Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Relative Posted October 9, 2014 Author Share Posted October 9, 2014 or modulates? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strange Posted October 9, 2014 Share Posted October 9, 2014 or modulates? No. Absolutely not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Relative Posted October 9, 2014 Author Share Posted October 9, 2014 No. Absolutely not. So you are saying that a Sine wave does not propagate in a medium? sin (2 π t) You are saying that the magnitude of input is the same has the magnitude of output? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strange Posted October 9, 2014 Share Posted October 9, 2014 I guess "modulate" is another of those words you don't understand. A sine wave (e.g. light) can propagate in a medium. But it can only be modulated in a non-linear medium. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Relative Posted October 9, 2014 Author Share Posted October 9, 2014 I guess "modulate" is another of those words you don't understand. A sine wave (e.g. light) can propagate in a medium. But it can only be modulated in a non-linear medium. Yes like the north pole, light is modulated , by angle of the indecent ray , ? ''Excitation is an elevation in energy level above an arbitrary baseline energy state'' are you saying when emr makes contact with matter the above does not happen? and emr does have a force? and also a Fn.? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strange Posted October 9, 2014 Share Posted October 9, 2014 Yes like the north pole, light is modulated , by angle of the indecent ray , ? I don't know what the North Pole has to do with it. What do you mean by "modulate"? (It appears to be a on-standard use of the word.) And "indecent" is an amusing spelling error. are you saying when emr makes contact with matter the above does not happen? Sometimes. Not always. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Relative Posted October 9, 2014 Author Share Posted October 9, 2014 C is only constant, with no obstruction.? I don't know what the North Pole has to do with it. What do you mean by "modulate"? (It appears to be a on-standard use of the word.) And "indecent" is an amusing spelling error. Sometimes. Not always. lol on the typo, I don't know what the North Pole has to do with it. What do you mean by "modulate"? (It appears to be a on-standard use of the word.) And "indecent" is an amusing spelling error. Sometimes. Not always. So when something is in excited state, there is propagation of emr? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strange Posted October 9, 2014 Share Posted October 9, 2014 (edited) C is only constant, with no obstruction.? The speed of light (in a vacuum) is always constant. The speed of light through a medium depends on the refractive index of the material. (And, strictly speaking, photons always travel at c through the medium.) The speed of light appears to have nothing to do with what you are saying about white, colours, sight, etc. Edited October 9, 2014 by Strange Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Relative Posted October 9, 2014 Author Share Posted October 9, 2014 modulate -to vary strength The speed of light (in a vacuum) is always constant. The speed of light through a medium depends on the refractive index of the material. (And, strictly speaking, photons always travel at c through the medium.) The speed of light appears to have nothing to do with what you are saying about white, colours, sight, etc. true emr contains electrons? A prism modulates emr? varies the strength of output Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strange Posted October 9, 2014 Share Posted October 9, 2014 modulate -to vary strength The only thing that normally varies the "strength" (amplitude) of the light is how much of it is absorbed by a particular surface. The fact that different frequencies are absorbed to a different extent is what gives things their colour. Light is not modulated as it travels from the object to your eye. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Relative Posted October 9, 2014 Author Share Posted October 9, 2014 The only thing that normally varies the "strength" (amplitude) of the light is how much of it is absorbed by a particular surface. The fact that different frequencies are absorbed to a different extent is what gives things their colour. Light is not modulated as it travels from the object to your eye. ok you got it sort of, you can see that light is modulated by a surface, the energy of the modulation been different to the magnitude of input, the E constant at a magnitude of 0,<transparent>, been altered by propagation of emr by rate of absorbing properties or density of medium.? or refractive index, difractive index A raindrop , modulates the frequency, the magnitude of output is weaker than the magnitude of input? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swansont Posted October 9, 2014 Share Posted October 9, 2014 This thread is all emr , emr is why we see, but yes i will stick to questions, You say so called transparency of light, so science can see it? Sight is interacting with EMR. Light is transparent in that light that's not going into your eye generally doesn't inhibit light that is, but the description is usually reserved for material substances (stuff made of Fermions at the fundamental level) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Relative Posted October 9, 2014 Author Share Posted October 9, 2014 value x, modulated Sight is interacting with EMR. Light is transparent in that light that's not going into your eye generally doesn't inhibit light that is, but the description is usually reserved for material substances (stuff made of Fermions at the fundamental level) sight interacts with emr, I like that phrase, sounds much better than light reflects into your eyes. because emr is a continued physical motion has a wave there is no gaps? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strange Posted October 9, 2014 Share Posted October 9, 2014 you can see that light is modulated by a surface The spectrum (mix of frequencies) is modified by absorption / reflection. the energy of the modulation been different to the magnitude of input I don't know what that means. Some energy is absorbed at some frequencies. the E constant at a magnitude of 0 I have absolutely no idea what that means. been altered by propagation of emr by rate of absorbing properties or density of medium Yes, the medium can absorb some light of certain frequencies as well. Air doesn't absorb much over short distance. But coloured, glass for example, absorbs some frequencies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Relative Posted October 9, 2014 Author Share Posted October 9, 2014 emr could be considered an invisible solid? the E constant at a magnitude of 0 means - the energy constant, its set magnitude, lets say 30 degrees today, to us we still see zero , we still see through it. colours are much more vivid in sunlight, the propagation is greater? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strange Posted October 9, 2014 Share Posted October 9, 2014 emr could be considered an invisible solid? NOOOOOO!!! the E constant at a magnitude of 0 means - the energy constant, its set magnitude, lets say 30 degrees today, to us we still see zero , we still see through it. Firstly, the energy of what? Energy is not measured in degrees. And the energy of the light around you is not constant. And almost certainly not 0. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Relative Posted October 9, 2014 Author Share Posted October 9, 2014 NOOOOOO!!! Firstly, the energy of what? Energy is not measured in degrees. And the energy of the light around you is not constant. And almost certainly not 0. Oh yes I see your point I am wording my questions badly again. The spectrum (mix of frequencies) is modified by absorption / reflection. and yes modified is the word, a prism modifies the output? the frequency output of a prism is different to the magnitude of input? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strange Posted October 9, 2014 Share Posted October 9, 2014 and yes modified is the word, a prism modifies the output? Yes, by sending different frequencies out in different directions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Relative Posted October 9, 2014 Author Share Posted October 9, 2014 (edited) By sending a radio wave, we send a modified wave through a sine wave? Yes, by sending different frequencies out in different directions. Yes thats it, the frequencies outputted been of wavelengths, several frequencies from one frequency, modified energy levels, ? By the angular momentum through a prism? angular having change although on a macroscopic level, an angular plain has greater distances.? The same has a convex rain drop? so emr has further to travel Edited October 9, 2014 by Relative Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strange Posted October 9, 2014 Share Posted October 9, 2014 By sending a radio wave, we send a modified wave through a sine wave? Errr... kind of. Radio transmissions modulate either the frequency (FM) or the amplitude (AM) of the transmitted "carrier" signal in order to transmit sound. Yes thats it, the frequencies outputted been of wavelengths, several frequencies from one frequency, modified energy levels, ? Sigh. Not several frequencies from one. White light is a mixture of frequencies. A prism spreads the different frequencies out at different angles. By the angular momentum through a prism? angular having change Nothing to do with angular momentum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swansont Posted October 9, 2014 Share Posted October 9, 2014 sight interacts with emr, I like that phrase, sounds much better than light reflects into your eyes. If you will look again, that's not actually what I said. Sight is interacting with EMR ≠ sight interacts with emr If you're going to get anything out of these discussions, you need to do a better job of reading and comprehension. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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