physica Posted October 15, 2014 Share Posted October 15, 2014 The question asks to apply born's rule. I know what born's rule is. Squaring the wave equation will give a probability distribution. Integrating this over a distance with an arbitrary constant and summing the whole equation to one (normalizing the constant) will give me the normalized function. This question then give the normalized function and also gives 3 integrals and asks me to prove that the function is normalized. I know that you have to pull the squared constant out of the integral, do the definite integral. divide one by the definite integral and the take the square root of this to get the normalized constant. However, I have no idea how to use the definite integrals that they have given me in the question. They are slightly different from the integral I need the integral is too hard for me to solve. Can someone give me any clues? Many thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elfmotat Posted October 15, 2014 Share Posted October 15, 2014 (edited) For the wave function they give you, see what happens if you change variables: [math]x \to x / \sqrt{\alpha}[/math]. Then compare the result to the third integral they give you. Edited October 15, 2014 by elfmotat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
physica Posted October 16, 2014 Author Share Posted October 16, 2014 I'm trying. There are two issues I still have. 1. Why do we do this substitution in a physical sense? 2. I'm starting to see a solution to this with the substitution but I can't get rid of the e^(-b^2/4) in the result Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elfmotat Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 (edited) 1. Why do we do this substitution in a physical sense? My hint was meant to suggest that you can use u-substitution to solve the integral. Let [math]u= \sqrt{\alpha} x [/math]. It doesn't have any physical meaning. 2. I'm starting to see a solution to this with the substitution but I can't get rid of the e^(-b^2/4) in the result Indeed. It seems the function isn't actually normalized. Edited October 16, 2014 by elfmotat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swansont Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 For the first integral: Do you understand what is meant by an odd function? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
physica Posted October 16, 2014 Author Share Posted October 16, 2014 Odd function means that it's not symmetrical. But if the function is squared it should be symmetrical. Will try the U substitution thank you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elfmotat Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 Well, I feel like an idiot. I was integrating the wavefunction instead of the square of the wavefunction. The square of it is just [math]\sqrt{\frac{2 \alpha}{\pi}} e^{-2\alpha x^2}[/math], which you can use u-substitution to get it into the form of integral (2). Everything works out, there are no extra factors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
physica Posted October 16, 2014 Author Share Posted October 16, 2014 It's ok. I'm still stuck though. How did the e raised to the imaginary function disappear? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elfmotat Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 I'll drop the coefficient to simplify things: [math]\psi^* \psi =(e^{ikx} e^{-\alpha x^2})(e^{-ikx} e^{-\alpha x^2})=e^{ikx-ikx-\alpha x^2-\alpha x^2}=e^{-2 \alpha x^2}[/math] 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
physica Posted October 16, 2014 Author Share Posted October 16, 2014 Oh yes I remember this now when doing measurement and uncertainty. Thank you the rest is straightforward. Thank you for being patient with me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
physica Posted October 16, 2014 Author Share Posted October 16, 2014 This may seem silly. I understand the mechanical way of doing the maths but do you know why the wave function star has a positive imaginary component whilst the non-star wave function has a negative imaginary component? I feel like I've gone through it but I can't remember why. Looking back at it this is why I was struggling with the question in the first place. Many thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuzzwood Posted October 17, 2014 Share Posted October 17, 2014 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Complex_conjugate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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