JonathanApps Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 The Lagrangian for a scalar field (eg charged pions) interacting with an EM field is roughly (\partial_{\mu}\phi - e A_{\mu}\phi)(\partial^{\mu}\phi - e A^{\mu}\phi) + m^2 \phi^2 or something like that, for charge e. So my question is: one term in this is proportional to \phi\phi\ A^2. So do we get Feynman graphs with 4 lines (2 pion, 2 photon) leading to one vertex? I've never seen a graph like that and it seems odd. I've also never heard anyone mention them. Do we get them or am I missing something (i.e. these 4-point vertices somehow disappear from the matrix elements?) Cheers, Jonathan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elfmotat Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 They're called "seagull graphs." See, for example, section 6.5.1 in David Tong's lecture notes: http://www.damtp.cam.ac.uk/user/tong/qft/six.pdf . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonathanApps Posted October 16, 2014 Author Share Posted October 16, 2014 So they do exist. Thanks! DAMTP just down the road from me.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elfmotat Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 No problem. By the way, the site will render your LaTeX for you if you wrap it in [*math][*/math] tags (without the *s). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imatfaal Posted October 17, 2014 Share Posted October 17, 2014 The hijack - which was entirely my fault - has been split to here http://www.scienceforums.net/topic/86107-latex-questions/#entry832149 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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