Гера�им Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 Action of gravitation reminds me light refraction in transparent substances.For example,violet beams refract in glass more strongly red,we will present index of refrection increases, beams will stsrt being bent as in a cycloid.Action of gravitation is similar, but it is more difficult,it is necessary to consider the particles creating the weight which sticks at the movement of particles and the and the final result the Solar system and galaxy will turn out.Of course space not empty,space particles the which create gravitation at the movement are involved in the movement.Also,between magnetism and gravitation similarity is found, at a piece of a magnet the movement of its atoms coordinated therefore also action is stronger than at an obyny piece. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robittybob1 Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 Action of gravitation reminds me light refraction in transparent substances.For example,violet beams refract in glass more strongly red,we will present index of refrection increases, beams will stsrt being bent as in a cycloid.Action of gravitation is similar, but it is more difficult,it is necessary to consider the particles creating the weight which sticks at the movement of particles and the and the final result the Solar system and galaxy will turn out.Of course space not empty,space particles the which create gravitation at the movement are involved in the movement.Also,between magnetism and gravitation similarity is found, at a piece of a magnet the movement of its atoms coordinated therefore also action is stronger than at an obyny piece. Could be a post from the first millennium BCE. I couldn't make out the physics in it. Seems archaic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strange Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 (edited) Action of gravitation reminds me light refraction in transparent substances Maybe. But ... For example,violet beams refract in glass more strongly red That is not the case for gravitational lensing. All frequencies are affected equally. Also,between magnetism and gravitation similarity is found But also many more differences. (Your comments are so vague and confused, there isn't much more to say.) Edited October 21, 2014 by Strange Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajb Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 That is not the case for gravitational lensing. All frequencies are affected equally. Just as an interesting passing comment, when you pass to QED on a curved space-time you do get dispersion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strange Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 Just as an interesting passing comment, when you pass to QED on a curved space-time you do get dispersion. That is interesting. Is there somewhere I can read a (simple) description of that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajb Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 That is interesting. Is there somewhere I can read a (simple) description of that? Graham M Shore, Quantum Gravitational Optics, Contemp.Phys. 44 (2003) 503-521 (http://arxiv.org/abs/gr-qc/0304059) Prof. Shore was my MPhys project supervisor 15 years ago or so. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elfmotat Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 Graham M Shore, Quantum Gravitational Optics, Contemp.Phys. 44 (2003) 503-521 (http://arxiv.org/abs/gr-qc/0304059) Prof. Shore was my MPhys project supervisor 15 years ago or so. Awesome. I've never seen any articles on this before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strange Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 Graham M Shore, Quantum Gravitational Optics, Contemp.Phys. 44 (2003) 503-521 (http://arxiv.org/abs/gr-qc/0304059) Prof. Shore was my MPhys project supervisor 15 years ago or so. Thanks. Only slightly ( ) over my head! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mordred Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 Intetesting paper. Not sure I agree with the superluminal light aspects. They do show how it can occur without violating causality but I'm still studying it. However some of the metrics in it are handy irregardless. Thanks for posting it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajb Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 (edited) Intetesting paper. Not sure I agree with the superluminal light aspects. They do show how it can occur without violating causality but I'm still studying it. However some of the metrics in it are handy irregardless. Thanks for posting it Shore and Hollowood address this in a series of papers. I can't remember exactly now what conclusion was, but causality can be preserved as can some other expected aspects of quantum field theory. Edited October 23, 2014 by ajb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mordred Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 I'll have to look them up could be intersting reading Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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