Robots

[fiveworlds]

A new building is being constructed over the Chernobyl nuclear power plant. http://www.economist.com/news/science-and-technology/21633793-almost-three-decades-after-catastrophe-wrecked-it-proper-tomb?fsrc=scn%2Ffb%2Fte%2Fbl%2Fed%2FtheultimatesecurityblanketHowever they say that reactor 4 needs the nuclear waste removed and that no robots which can withstand the radiation and are dextrous enough currently exist.

 

As I see it once the building is covered with the other building they should dismantle the lot. There doesn't need to be a smaller building. Chip away at it with diggers and remove all the structure around the reactor. That way the robots don't really need to be all that dextrous. Alternatively you can dig a big hole under the reactor so that it collapses in on itself and fill the hole with concrete. http://www.castles-of-britain.com/undermining.htm

Edited November 27, 2014 by fiveworlds

[SarK0Y]

 

A new building is being constructed over the Chernobyl nuclear power plant. http://www.economist...securityblanketHowever they say that reactor 4 needs the nuclear waste removed and that no robots which can withstand the radiation and are dextrous enough currently exist.

Fiveworlds, look at the Fukushima. have you ever seen many robots out the???

 

 

As I see it once the building is covered with the other building they should dismantle the lot. There doesn't need to be a smaller building. Chip away at it with diggers and remove all the structure around the reactor. That way the robots don't really need to be all that dextrous. Alternatively you can dig a big hole under the reactor so that it collapses in on itself and fill the hole with concrete. http://www.castles-o...undermining.htm

what about the dust to spread all around??? + such approach makes too high probability to propagate toxic materials through GroundWaters + concrete cracks along Time & cracking can get not too long as well.

Edited November 27, 2014 by SarK0Y

[fiveworlds]

Fiveworlds, look at the Fukushima. have you ever seen many robots out the???

 

No I am asking would it be possible to make one. gamma radiation will only penetrate so much lead. Of course you would need to know exactly how much lead you are going to need to stop the radiation at source before you can build the robot. You also need to know how heavy all that lead is going to be. The more lead you need the heavier the robot has to be which means it'll need to be big. Maybe too big.

 

Time & cracking can get not too long as well.

 

Was that not a problem before and the reason for the new shield?

 

what about the dust to spread all around???

 

Can you make a vacuum?

Edited November 27, 2014 by fiveworlds

[SarK0Y]

@5worlds

 

No I am asking would it be possible to make one. gamma radiation will only penetrate so much lead. Of course you would need to know exactly how much lead you are going to need to stop the radiation at source before you can build the robot. You also need to know how heavy all that lead is going to be. The more lead you need the heavier the robot has to be which means it'll need to be big. Maybe too big.

theoretically, hardened electronics may withstand at higher levels of radiation than there have been. But practically bots are rather expensive things & they, anyway, need to be maintained by humans + they're almost zero-capable to perform autonomous work, so more/less tricky operations become too laggy. Look at darpa robotic challenge

 

 

 

Was that not a problem before and the reason for the new shield?

top space, you can shield as much as you'd like or be able. But bottoms always have been questioned.

 

 

Can you make a vacuum?Can you make a vacuum?

Tooooooooooooooo crazy expensive.

[fiveworlds]

But bottoms always have been questioned

 

You mean that given sufficient time the radiation could seep into the ground underneath the structure and cause unknown damage to the water supply?

[SarK0Y]

You mean that given sufficient time the radiation could seep into the ground underneath the structure and cause unknown damage to the water supply?

Exactly. With Time passing by, it becomes 100% Threat. & noone knows how to eliminate that: any solutions are too costly. + Chernobyl nests in quite seismic-stable zone, but Fukushima & others of japanese nuke plants have deal w/ immense number of quakes.