Who Framed North Korea?

[Airbrush]

This is the response from North Korea after being accused by the US for the cyber attack by the "GOP" (Guardians of Peace) on Sony, costing Sony hundreds of millions of dollars, to retaliate for the movie "The Interview". North Korea said they were framed and want to see the evidence and work with the US to find the culprit(s).

 

The US rejected this offer from North Korea. What do you think about this? It seems to me that the US should do anything it can to open dialogue with North Korea. The US does not need to give away sensitive info about HOW we figured out North Korea is responsible for the attack. We should send a deligation lead by the basketball player Rodman, who the great leader is a fan of, and see if we can extract more information from North Korea, maybe getting better proof for a world court that North Korea is guilty of the attack.

 

Interesting that even though North Korea claims to not be responsible for the attack, they feel it was a righteous act, and issuing [another] threat that if the US did not work with North Korea on figuring out the "real" attacker, the USA would suffer some other kind of attack.

[iNow]

I think accepting such an offer would be gullible and silly. The FBI is quite good in these types of forensics and is clear from whence the attack originated, regardless of North Korea's public protestations about their involvement.

 

Retribution we will never see is almost certainly being carried out already by our national security apparatus, and if North Korea wishes to discuss reform with us and the world they should begin by releasing their prisoners and feeding their people instead of threatening death for those planning to show a movie in a foreign land.

 

I also think the White House should have a public viewing of the film and that Sony should consider airing it on the big screen in Time Square for all to see, perhaps even partner with airlines to show it on all flights (international and domestic) for free over the next several weeks.

Edited December 21, 2014 by iNow

[Acme]

This is the response from North Korea after being accused by the US for the cyber attack by the "GOP" (Guardians of Peace) on Sony, costing Sony hundreds of millions of dollars, to retaliate for the movie "The Interview". North Korea said they were framed and want to see the evidence and work with the US to find the culprit(s).

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The N. Koreans just want to 'work' with us so they can find out how we tracked the hack to them so they can improve their attacks in the future. Duh!

[Airbrush]

The N. Koreans just want to 'work' with us so they can find out how we tracked the hack to them so they can improve their attacks in the future. Duh!

 

Obviously, but do you think a US delegation of computer experts would let slip such important info about HOW we tracked them? We could use the opportunity to extract more information, without giving up any info.

[Acme]

Obviously, but do you think a US delegation of computer experts would let slip such important info about HOW we tracked them? We could use the opportunity to extract more information, without giving up any info.

One does not let a wolf guard the sheep.

[Airbrush]

One does not let a wolf guard the sheep.

 

"Keep your friends close and your enemies closer."

[Acme]

Our bodies are our gardens to which our wills are gardeners.

[John Cuthber]

Can anyone come up with a god reason why I should not assume that both parties are lying?

[Acme]

If I told you I'd have to...well, you know.

 

North Korea experiencing severe Internet outages

... "We aren't going to discuss, you know, publicly operational details about the possible response options or comment on those kind of reports in anyway except to say that as we implement our responses, some will be seen, some may not be seen," State Department spokeswoman Marie Harf said. ...

[iNow]

Following the Internet outage in North Korea that was likely the result of retaliatory attack earlier today, a nuclear plant in South Korea was hacked just a few hours ago (seemed thus far only data was stolen and plant operations were not yet impacted). Any guesses who's responsible?

 

http://www.businessinsider.com/south-koreas-nuclear-operator-was-hacked-2014-12

[Airbrush]

Can anyone come up with a god reason why I should not assume that both parties are lying?

 

All parties may be lying, but the question is whose argument is most plausible? N.Korea says they didn't do it, but sympathize with the hackers, and then makes unspecific threats, just like the hackers.

[Airbrush]

^{Did anyone see “The Interview” yet? It was silly, but important to defend free speech. How much of the anti-American rhetoric shown at the start of the film is accurate? We should send a delegation to N.Korea, lead by Michael Jordan, Dennis Rodman, and Eric Clapton.}

^{"....The Washington Post reported in 2009 that Kim Jong-un's school friends recalled he "spent hours doing meticulous pencil drawings of Chicago Bulls superstar Michael Jordan."[110] He was obsessed with basketball and computer games.[111][112] On 26 February 2013, Kim Jong-un met ex-NBA star Dennis Rodman,[113] leading many reporters to speculate that Rodman was the first American that Kim had met.[114] Rodman described his trip to Kim Jong-un's private island, "It's like Hawaii or Ibiza, but he's the only one that lives there."[115] Kim Jong-un is reportedly a fan of Eric Clapton.[116]}

^{During Dennis Rodman's 26 February 2013 trip to North Korea, Vice Media correspondent Ryan Duffy observed that "the leader was 'socially awkward' and didn’t make eye contact when shaking hands".[119]}

 

^{http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kim_Jong_Un}

[Dekan]

Perhaps the US Government is planning to attack North Korea, and wants a justification for the attack.

 

And also, wants a partner in the attack. So as to form a "Coalition". That always looks better in the UN. Not unilateral aggression - a "Coalition"

 

The most likely partner for such a Coalition, is Japan. The Japanese traditionally don't like Koreans. Especially when they blatantly insult a famous Japanese company such as Sony, by scheming to ban one of its pictures. That must cause a big loss of face.

 

So, doesn't it seem clear which way things are heading?

Edited December 25, 2014 by Dekan

[Airbrush]

Some in the cybersecurity community think the Sony hack was an inside job, and not North Korea.

 

The cybersecurity experts presented their case to the FBI, but the FBI is sticking with their original claim that the hack was by N.Korea.

 

Cybersecurity experts say it is possible N.Korea did the hack and the evidence for this is not available from the FBI, maybe because it is too sensitive.

 

http://nypost.com/2014/12/30/new-evidence-sony-hack-was-inside-job-cyber-experts/

[iNow]

Or maybe the Truthers and Birthers and other Idiot-ers need something new to latch on to...

[mothythewso]

Personally, I think we should just drop a J-DAM on Un's sorry ass and be done with it. I'd volunteer to do it, but it's been too long since I flew.