j_p Posted March 18, 2005 Posted March 18, 2005 I am writing a training document and am addressing HPLCs. I can not just reference the instruction manual; it's five separate manuals, dealing primarily with operations that are run by the software anyhow. I have to write a SHORT document describing the basic theory and instrumentation of HPLC that assumes no more than a single general chemistry course in a very bad high-school. Can any-one suggest any public references I could crib? [That's not cheating; its "not re-inventing the wheel".]
BenSon Posted March 18, 2005 Posted March 18, 2005 OMG did you even try to find information!?! I googled "HPLC" it and THIS was the FIRST link I got. I think this page alone should contain enough information. I'm getting realy sick of the people coming with asignments and homework which could be answered easily with a little effort... seriously the first link...*end rant* hope that helps... ~Scott
j_p Posted March 18, 2005 Author Posted March 18, 2005 That is good for an outline, but not quite what I need. I understand HPLC, and, more importantly, can run and troubleshoot one. But I don't know how to describe the function and operation without using the Greek alphabet and terms like "differential migration". I have spent hours slogging through scientific instrumentation manuals looking for nuggets of information both practical and intelligible. I am writing a training document that can assume very little. I need something between "...migrate according to the non-covalent interactions of the compounds with the stationary phase" and "...sticks to the stuff inside this metal tube here and then gets pushed off with this stuff in the jar." Imagine you are trying to get investors in a small start-up and you have to explain to people with lots of money that you want them to give you what an HPLC does; that's the kind of language I need. And I just can not find it anywhere.
BenSon Posted March 18, 2005 Posted March 18, 2005 sorry about before if you've seen some other recent posts in the forum you'll understand what i was talking about... That style of writing is pretty hard to come by i would suggest using a more technical text, copy and paste, then dumb down most of the terminology but leaving the occasional scientific word...Or use the techniccal text leaving most terminology in it but after every term like 'differencial migration' have a quick explaination in basic language. Then link it to something else, most people will be able to follow if you link every more-advanced topic to a simple one at the start of the article. Lots of diagrams would also help. ~Scott
Skye Posted March 18, 2005 Posted March 18, 2005 Think of casual, formal and technical language. You have used technical language in the first sentence and casual in the second. You should probably use formal language, perhaps like "...adheres to the lining of the tube and is then removed by a liquid in which it dissolves."
FVT Posted March 18, 2005 Posted March 18, 2005 JP, I am an HPLC specialist. How can I be of help? for beginners this are the basics of HPLC. USAGE: Used to purify or separate analytes (mixed) in a solution. to detect components in a solution. Here is a quick overview. Introduction The message of this tutorial is that reverse phase HPLC is simple. Compounds stick to reverse phase HPLC columns in high aqueous mobile phase and are eluted from RP HPLC columns with high organic mobile phase. In RP HPLC compounds are separated based on their hydrophobic character. Peptides can be separated by running a linear gradient of the organic solvent. I often tell my fellow researchers to run the 60/60 gradient when chromatographing an unknown. The 60/60 gradient means that the gradient starts at near 100% aqueous and ramps to 60% organic solvent in 60 minutes. The majority of peptides (10 to 30 amino acid residues in length) will elute by the time the gradient reaches 30% organic. To learn some of the simple principles of RP HPLC please read on. The HPLC In most cases the HPLC you intend to use must be able to pump and mix two solvents. This can be accomplished with one pump and a proportioning valve or by using two separate pumps. Generally the pumping configuration is an aspect of the instrumentation that is transparent to the user. Reverse phase chromatography can also be performed in a purely isocratic mode where the solvent conditions are held constant, this form of reverse phase chromatography can be carried out with a single pump. Isocratic methods are used most often in a QC environment in which a single analyte has been extensively characterized and the compound is being run to confirm it's identity and to look for closely related degradation products. If you do not own an HPLC here is a link to HPLC vendors and accessory suppliers. HPLC Column Components and Specifications column dimension (size) particle size and pore size stationary phase Since columns are tubular, column dimensions usually take the following format, internal diameter X length (4.6mm X 250mm). As a mass spectroscopist you will encounter columns ranging in internal diameter from 0.050 to 4.6 mm or even larger if you are performing large scale preparative chromatography. For mass spectrometry a short reverse phase column will work nearly as well as a longer column and this is an important fact because shorter columns are generally cheaper and generate less back pressure. Why is less back pressure important? If a column runs at low pressure it allows the user more flexibility to adjust the flow rate. Sometimes shorter columns are used to do fast chromatography at higher than normal flow rates. In terms of length we routinely run 100 mm columns, however 50 mm or 30 mm columns may be adequate for many LC/MS separation needs. The most common columns are packed with silica particles. The beads or particles are generally characterized by particle and pore size. Particle sizes generally range between 3 and 50 microns, with 5 µm particles being the most popular for peptides. Larger particles will generate less system pressure and smaller particles will generate more pressure. The smaller particles generally give higher separation efficiencies. The particle pore size is measured in angstroms and generally range between 100-1000 angstroms. 300 angstroms is the most popular pore size for proteins and peptides and 100 angstroms is the most common for small molecules. Silica is the most common particle material. Since silica dissolves at high pH it is not recommended to use solvents that exceed pH 7. However, recently some manufactures have introduced silica based technology that is more resistant to high pH, it is important to take note of the manufactures suggested use recommendations. In addition the combination of high temperature and extremes of pH can be especially damaging to silica. The stationary phase is generally made up of hydrophobic alkyl chains ( -CH2-CH2-CH2-CH3 ) that interact with the analyte. There are three common chain lengths, C4, C8, and C18. C4 is generally used for proteins and C18 is generally used to capture peptides or small molecules. The idea here is that the larger protein molecule will likely have more hydrophobic moieties to interact with the column and thus a shorter chain length is more appropriate. Peptides are smaller and need the more hydrophobic longer chain lengths to be captured, so C8 and C18 are used for peptides or small molecules. Here is an interesting note: Observations have been made that C8 columns are actually better for capturing smaller hydrophilic peptides, the theory here is that the longer C18 chains lay down during the early aqueous period of the gradient and the more hydrophilic peptides are not captured. We use C8 routinely for all peptide work and this particular alkyl chain length works equally well if not better than C18 for all peptides. Solvents The reverse phase solvents are by convention installed on the HPLC channels A and B. The A solvent by convention is the aqueous solvent (water) and the B solvent by convention is the organic solvent (acetonitrile, methanol, propanol). It is important to follow this convention since the terms A and B are commonly used to refer to the aqueous and organic solvents respectively. The A solvent is generally HPLC grade water with 0.1% acid. The B solvent is generally an HPLC grade organic solvent such as acetonitrile or methanol with 0.1% acid. The acid is used to the improve the chromatographic peak shape and to provide a source of protons in reverse phase LC/MS. The acids most commonly used are formic acid, triflouroacetic acid, and acetic acid. A 0.1% v/v solution is made by adding 1ml of acid per liter of solvent. Triflouroacetic acid has been reported to suppress MS ionization and often mass spectroscopists lower the percentage of TFA to 0.05 or even 0.02% without significant loss in chromatographic efficiency. Some MS people add a small percentage of heptafluorobutyric acid (HFBA, pdf from Michrom) to acetic acid solvents or low TFA containing solvents to help improve peak shape. Since modern mass spectrometers are very sensitive it is important not to use plastic pipette tips when adding acid to the mobile phase, always use glass. In our work we use acetonitrile as our organic solvent. We have heard that the best electrospray solvent is 30% methanol, 35 mM acetic acid. We commonly use this solvent system for ESI MS infusion, but have found that acetic acid is an inferior acid for chromatographic peak shape. Our preferred HPLC grade water, acetonitrile and methanol is purchased from Burdick and Jackson. Our preferred TFA comes in 1 ml ampoules from from Pierce Chemical Company. Our Preferred Solvent System for ESI LC/MS A = HPLC grade Water, 0.1 % formic acid B = HPLC grade Acetonitrile, 0.1% formic acid Gradient When chromatographing an unknown we normally use the following simple gradient to learn about the hydrophobic character of the unknown compound. The % A in the gradient described below is implied. We call this the 60/60 gradient, because we run from near 0% B to 60% B in 60 minutes. Through experience we have noted that 90% of all peptides will elute from a C18 reverse phase column by 30% acetonitrile. There may be a few really hydrophobic peptides that elute later that is why we take the gradient to 60% B. You may even want to run this gradient to 80% at least once to see if you are getting everything off of the column. You may ask why don't we start the gradient at 0% B? As we talked about before, in 0% organic and in high aqueous, the very hydrophobic, long C18 alkyl chains in an effort to get away from the high aqueous environment mat down on the particle. When these alkyl chains mat down they are inefficient at capturing the analyte so chromatographers in the know start the gradient with some small % of organic, 2-5%. Flow Rate It is important to use the correct flow rate for your HPLC column. Below is a table with standard flow rates for easy reference. If you are running a column with a different diameter than those shown in the table please review the maintaining linear velocity page to learn how to calculate the appropriate flow rate for your column. Sample Preparation The sample is normally reconstituted in the A solvent to maximize binding to the column. The sample should not be dissolved in an organic solvent or it may not stick to the stationary phase. The sample should not be dissolved in detergent containing solutions. Some detergents may bind to reverse phase columns and modify them irreversibly. In addition detergents preferentially ionize in electrospray mass spectrometry and can obscure the detection or suppress the ionization of the analyte. Optimizing the Separation Once you have a separation you may want to optimize it. You may wish to shallow out the gradient to improve the separation, or you may wish to shorten the run time. Taking the illustration above one can see that all of the peptides are out by 40 minutes. This does not mean that we can change this 80 min run into a 40 min run, but there is room for improvement. The first step in the optimization is to determine the %B at which the last peak elutes. If you look at the blue gradient line you might guess that the last peak elutes near 40%B but this would be incorrect. All HPLC systems have a gradient delay. The gradient delay is the time between when the software tells the pumps to start pumping at a certain mobile phase composition and the time it takes for that solvent composition to reach the column and have an effect. A good guess for a gradient delay is 10 minutes. This would mean that our guess for the final mobile phase composition for the 40 min peak would be approximately 30%B. To observe the gradient delay time look at the illustration above and observe that the baseline returns to the starting conditions at 70 minutes and not at 60.1 minutes when our pumps have gone back to 2% B. One must take care to avoid having the last peak elute on the "equilibration cliff", (at 70 min. in this example). This can be avoided by ending the gradient at a %B that is slightly higher than that required by the last component. Based on the separation shown at the top of this section one could rewrite the gradient to look like this: This would make the gradient shallower and possibly give a better peak separation. To shorten the run time one could rewrite the gradient to look like this: This last change would cut 30 min. from the analysis time. Shorter analysis times are always better for work efficiency. With every minute you can cut from the HPLC method without sacrificing your chromatographic goals you will be rewarded with better work efficiency. With this change the last peak would most likely still elute at 40 minutes and the peptide separation would essentially remain the same as in the initial 60/60 analysis. What is HPLC Equilibration? The column must be equilibrated, re-equilibrated to the initial high aqueous solvent composition before another analysis can be performed. Normally this re-equilibration is stuck onto the end of the gradient. How much equilibration time is enough? As a rule of thumb we give 20 minutes. In reality it depends on the column length, flow rate and the hydrophobicity of your peptides. Some chromatographers use 10 minutes as their standard equilibration time. You should determine this parameter experimentally, the criteria will be, does my analyte really stick to the column and chromatograph appropriately and reproducibly with subsequent analyses. If you choose to do this part of the method development you will undoubtedly be rewarded with improved chromatography and better cycle time. Should I Control Column Temperature? Yes. Scientists are control freaks. If you can control a variable, control it! Actually if you are performing automated analyses over a long period of time peak retention times can drift with changing ambient temperature. It is common for many companies and institutions shut down the air conditioning at night to save money, which could result in shifting peak retention times due to dramatic changes in ambient temperature. Many HPLCs provide the option to control column compartment temperature. If your HPLC does not have this capability a heated column jacket can be purchased from many suppliers. The most common running temperature is 40°C, this places the column compartment well above even the most extreme ambient temperature fluctuations. In addition to maintaining constant temperature, temperature can be used to influence the chromatographic separation. No chromatographic study is complete without a temperature study. In our experience higher temperature is better, peaks will be sharper and elute earlier. It is not too uncommon to perform chromatography at 60°C and some daredevils even go to 80°C. Remember though that higher temperature will lead to a shorter column lifetime and some columns may not be able to tolerate 60°C. Consult the manufactures recommendations when experimenting with high temperature. After your runs are complete for the day it is advised that you turn off your column heater since high temperature leads to stationary phase deterioration. Preparing for the First Run of the Day One observation is that if you start up a reverse phase analysis from a dead stop with a column that has perhaps been sitting in high aqueous conditions for up to 10 hours the analysis will give irreproducible results. Conventional wisdom has it, you want to first flush the column with the highest % organic of your method for at least 3 column volumes and then bring it back to the equilibrating condition. This practice may have the advantage of getting you to standard equilibration conditions faster and it will also clean your column. A better alternative is to make the first run a blank run (or "preparation run") and then the next run can be your real analysis. We prefer the second option because it should get you to the standard starting conditions more accurately. However, often, if we are in a hurry and the first option is quicker, well..... After the Last Run of the Day We store our columns in 50/50 methanol/water without any acid. If you are using a salt, unlikely in LC/MS, wash your entire system, solvent bottles, HPLC, solvent lines, and column, into a non-salt containing solvent. Salt may precipitate out and plug your HPLC or column or may cause corrosion. Usually we flush with pure water first then leave the system in 50/50 methanol: water. Some salts may precipitate out in high organic so an initial water wash is advised. The 50/50 methanol:water solution helps to stop bacterial growth which can muck up your system. Take care of your HPLC, it's the right thing to do!
FVT Posted March 18, 2005 Posted March 18, 2005 thanks it actually a quick tutoring provided by Ion source site. But there is a lot of details that they omitted. For example, pH and how it affects retention, temperature and how it affects retention time (collision theory and kinetics), improving resolution (controlling detector wavelength), etc. but he said he wanted only the basics.
j_p Posted March 19, 2005 Author Posted March 19, 2005 Yes; collision theory and kinetics are the stuff I have to avoid. And I don't even need to deal with gradients [we don't like gradients]. Thank you for your help; I really thought I'd get three of four links. The outline in your first post will be very helpful; I can work that into something approachable [THAT is the word for what I need]. The theory of LC is not all that difficult to grasp, but all the explanation I've found dive right into alphas and Ns and Ks and k-primes ... I need an old high school lab exercise that demonstrates the principles with filter paper and ink and a nasty organic solvent. Thanks again
j_p Posted March 19, 2005 Author Posted March 19, 2005 I was reading your posts with the homework vampire. But I sympathize; high school chemistry is usually terrible. TY.
j_p Posted March 19, 2005 Author Posted March 19, 2005 Yes, that is exactly what I need; I was just hoping I didn't have to write it myself. I really want to get this manual done. TY
FVT Posted March 19, 2005 Posted March 19, 2005 Yes' date=' that is exactly what I need; I was just hoping I didn't have to write it myself. I really want to get this manual done.TY[/quote'] You may want to refer to Andrew Guzzetta from Ion Source Tutorials. He is the one that put this manual together. I can write up a manual if you want but its going to take time (atleast 2 weeks). I would include some things Andy skipped such as pH because pH (controlling it) does have an effect on resolution and retention time. The basic thing you want to write up in a manual is (IN General terms...do not refer to a specific system like HP 1050 or Waters) the basic operation techniques, trouble shooting, resolution and retention improvement and some common mistakes to avoid. Dont go too much into the "theories" if the guide is being written for a beginner.
j_p Posted March 20, 2005 Author Posted March 20, 2005 Well, my Sunday afternoon is shot; I'll probably spend all day roaming the ADLS; I love link sites [forget the HPLC trainees, let 'em read a book]. I've referenced the Trouble-shooting sections of the Manuals; in addition to giving the information one actually needs the run the instruments, they give a short paragraph on generally theory, and imply a lot of technical details. But the reason I threw out the question is that there is so MUCH information on the net that it is difficult to find what you need. Fortunately, there are so many people on the net that some-one probably has found it before. Roaming around the web is fun, but no always the most efficient way of solving a problem. Oh, wow, I just found a paper chromatography reference; now all I need is some ground up Autumn leaves. ASDL is going into favorites. Thanks again.
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