shaneo Posted January 1, 2015 Posted January 1, 2015 (edited) Below is my shot at explaining how to get to the second to last step of the eyring equation from Gibbs laws. However I don't understand two mathematical parts as highlighted and described in the image below.Could someone please explain how they come about?Thanksnote:eq 4 should equal eq 2 (just another way of writing it) (not sure hence the highlighted T in eq 3)to get to eq 5. i have cancelled the "T" in the equationto get to eq 6. reversed the minusto get to eq. 3 is the part that i don't understand. update: Please see comments below(not sure how to get from bttom eq in picture to the Eyring equation Edited January 1, 2015 by shaneo
studiot Posted January 1, 2015 Posted January 1, 2015 (edited) You need an equation for K** (which is dimensionless or in moles) in terms of K, which is the rate constant in moles/sec. that is you need to multiply by sec-1 The equation you require is K = K**(kT/h) Note also that equation1 is a statement of the difference between the free energy of the activated complex and the reactants [math]\Delta {G^{**}} = \Delta {H^{**}} - T\Delta {S^{**}} = - RT\ln ({K^{**}})[/math] If you take the exponential of each side you end up with the product of two exponentials [math]K = \frac{{kT}}{h}{e^{ - \frac{{\Delta {G^{**}}}}{{RT}}}}[/math][math] = \frac{{kT}}{h}{e^{\frac{{\Delta {S^{**}}}}{R}}}{e^{ - \frac{{\Delta {H^{**}}}}{{RT}}}}[/math] Edited January 1, 2015 by studiot 1
shaneo Posted January 1, 2015 Author Posted January 1, 2015 (edited) thanks for your response.. however what i require is an in detail step by step approach to the derivation :/ the mathematics doesn't quite add up in my mind. However i do now know that we take the exponential of the above metioned equation in order to reverse the natural logs in a revised form of the eyring equation. The equation that i am mentioning is on the bottom of the description Edited January 1, 2015 by shaneo
studiot Posted January 1, 2015 Posted January 1, 2015 (edited) OK, my post showed how to get your first highlighted (in yellow) questions ie the negative delta H double double star and T in the denominator. It's to late to assemble the rest of the derivation tonight, I will see what i can post tomorrow, if no one else does it first. It would be very helpful if you would label your notation, since everyone has a different notation for this. Particularly with the rate and equilibrium constants. I assume you have realised I can't do double daggers and have used double stars instead. Edit, Do you realise you have incorrectly multiplied equation 1 through by -1 to form equation 2 incorrectly? [math]\Delta H - T\Delta S = - RT\ln (K)[/math] [math] - \Delta H + T\Delta S = + RT\ln (K)[/math] Edited January 2, 2015 by studiot 1
shaneo Posted January 2, 2015 Author Posted January 2, 2015 ah that last part makes much more sense now! no i didn't realise that i hadn't rearranged eq 1 correctly. My lecturer put the equations down without much explanation. I think i have it up the the point of the last equation in my second image on the description now.I will post my workings out either tonight or tomorrow.I think they are correct! Thanks again,Shaneo
studiot Posted January 2, 2015 Posted January 2, 2015 Yes you were on the right track apart from then -1. 1
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