physica Posted January 29, 2015 Posted January 29, 2015 (edited) Sorry for the hibernation recently I have assignments in and this question has had me stuck for 2 days straight. What I get for the first 2 parts of the question is to apply poisson's equation with cylindrical coordinates. Only the radius will change so del squared will only consist of the radius. For the general solution I get the following: V( r )=(p/6EE_0)(r^2)-(A/r)+B I am completely stuck on part C. I think that the boundary conditions are: V(a)=V(2a)=0. I use simultaneous equations to solve for A and B but my result is completely different to the solution given in C. Where do the logs come from? Where have I gone wrong? I would be very grateful if someone could nudge me in the right direction. Many thanks for your time Edited January 29, 2015 by physica
physica Posted January 31, 2015 Author Posted January 31, 2015 There has been an update, I have realised that I have used spherical coordinates to derive the general solution which is silly. My new general solution is: V( r )=A(Ln[ r ])-[(pr^3)/6EE_0]+C However, my boundary conditions: V(a)=V(2a)=0 make the general solution collapse to zero completely which is definitely wrong.... is anyone out there?
studiot Posted January 31, 2015 Posted January 31, 2015 (edited) Well poisson's equation in cylindrical coordinates is [math]{\nabla ^2}V = \frac{1}{r}\frac{\partial }{{\partial r}}\left( {r\frac{{\partial V}}{{\partial r}}} \right) + \frac{1}{{{r^2}}}\frac{{{\partial ^2}V}}{{\partial {\theta ^2}}} + \frac{{{\partial ^2}V}}{{\partial {z^2}}} = - \frac{\rho }{\varepsilon }[/math] The reference to a long cylinder provides a value for [math]\frac{{{\partial ^2}V}}{{\partial {z^2}}}[/math] and radial symmetry provides a value for [math]\frac{1}{{{r^2}}}\frac{{{\partial ^2}V}}{{\partial {\theta ^2}}}[/math] Leaving only the first term and therefore reducing the equation to a solvable ordinary one. Now the physics is that the potential at the boundary with any conductor is a constant. So if we reckon zero potential at the inner surface of the outer conductor as zero and the potential at the outer of the inner one as v (a constant), we can obtain an expression for V®. This leads to the logarithmic ratio solution. You are then asked to rework with v = 0 in part c. I hope this is enough of a nudge as I'm off out on the town tonight. Edited January 31, 2015 by studiot
physica Posted February 1, 2015 Author Posted February 1, 2015 Hope you enjoyed your night on the town. Many thanks for the nudge I have now solved it. It turned out that my general solution was wrong. Applying the boundary conditions to my new general solution gave the equation given in the question.
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