Ant Sinclair Posted March 9, 2015 Posted March 9, 2015 (edited) Mike the links below are to former Canadian Defence Minister Paul Hellyer, He definately believes we are being observed! Is He a Fruit cake (cherry & walnut) or telling the truth? http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/science/space/10560418/Former-Canadian-defence-minister-Aliens-among-us.html Edited March 9, 2015 by Ant Sinclair
Ant Sinclair Posted March 10, 2015 Author Posted March 10, 2015 (edited) This is Probably The Most Profound Statement Ever Addressed To The Whole Of Man-Kind And Not One Response So Far! !!! Edited March 10, 2015 by Ant Sinclair
Strange Posted March 10, 2015 Posted March 10, 2015 This is Probably The Most Profound Statement Ever Addressed To The Whole Of Man-Kind Is it? Alien conspiracy theories? On Russia Today!? One of the few outlets to make the Weekly World News or Daily Mail seem credible. Not profound, but "deep something".
Ant Sinclair Posted March 10, 2015 Author Posted March 10, 2015 Is it? If the Gentleman is correct I would say it is profound! Alien conspiracy theories? Or Alien Conspiracy Fact! On Russia Today? Daily Mail? Does it Matter what outlet as it's still Paul Hellyer speaking!
Strange Posted March 10, 2015 Posted March 10, 2015 Does it Matter what outlet as it's still Paul Hellyer speaking! I don't know (or care) who Paul Hellyer is. Does he present any (objective) evidence?
Ant Sinclair Posted March 10, 2015 Author Posted March 10, 2015 If You'd have READ post No.132 You'd have seen He was The Former Canadian Minister Of Defence! As far as evidence I haven't spoken to Him personally but with Him being in the position He once was would have a lot more "insider" information as to such matters than You or I!
Strange Posted March 10, 2015 Posted March 10, 2015 As far as evidence I haven't spoken to Him personally but with Him being in the position He once was would have a lot more "insider" information as to such matters than You or I! I assume if he had any evidence, he would present it. "I am privy to insider information" is about as convincing as "the leprechauns told me" (when it comes to a subject for which there is zero evidence).
Ant Sinclair Posted March 10, 2015 Author Posted March 10, 2015 (edited) I don't know the workings of governments at cabinet minister level, but presume if He presented classified material would be in trouble!, sounds like You're doubting His sincerity! Edited March 10, 2015 by Ant Sinclair
Strange Posted March 10, 2015 Posted March 10, 2015 I don't know the workings of governments at cabinet minister level, but presume if He presented classified material would be in trouble!, sounds like You're doubting His sincerity! I doubt the veracity of his information, not his sincerity in believing it. I suppose he could be deliberately lying, but that is usually the last thing I would consider (well, aliens walking among us is the last thing I would consider ). 1
Ant Sinclair Posted March 10, 2015 Author Posted March 10, 2015 How are You qualified to doubt the accuaracy of His statements Strange? ???
Strange Posted March 10, 2015 Posted March 10, 2015 How are You qualified to doubt the accuaracy of His statements Strange? ??? Of course. Everyone is. Everyone should question assertions that are unsupported by evidence. There is a saying: extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.
Ant Sinclair Posted March 10, 2015 Author Posted March 10, 2015 So basically Your accusing The Former Canadian Defence Minister of being a liar! -3
Strange Posted March 10, 2015 Posted March 10, 2015 So basically Your accusing The Former Canadian Defence Minister of being a liar! Of course not. I specifically said I didn't doubt his sincerity. I can't imagine why someone would lie about something like this. Although, deliberately lying is infinitely more likely than aliens. After all, we know people do lie sometimes. But we have zero evidence of aliens living among us.
Ant Sinclair Posted March 10, 2015 Author Posted March 10, 2015 (edited) So Strange, Your admitting naivety as well as ignorance tonight in believing that this one small rock is the only place in the entire Universe to harbour life!!! ! Edited March 10, 2015 by Ant Sinclair -1
Strange Posted March 10, 2015 Posted March 10, 2015 So Strange, Your admitting naivety as well as ignorance tonight in believing that this one small rock is the only place in the entire Universe to harbour life!!! ! No. I didn't say that. I wouldn't be at all surprised if there was life elsewhere in the universe.
Ant Sinclair Posted March 10, 2015 Author Posted March 10, 2015 Although, deliberately lying is infinitely more likely than aliens. Can YOU show the math for this??? ?
Strange Posted March 10, 2015 Posted March 10, 2015 Although, deliberately lying is infinitely more likely than aliens. Can YOU show the math for this??? ? No maths as it is an informal, jokey statement (there appears to be nothing in this thread that deserves to be taken seriously). But, as I said: we know people do lie sometimes. But we have zero evidence of aliens living among us. Therefore lying is a possible explanation while aliens is an extraordinarily unlikely one. (And I repeat, as this appears to be wilful-misunderstanding-night, I am not saying he is lying.) It is also ironic that you ask me to support my statement but are gullible enough to just accept there must be 30 species of aliens living among us because someone says so.
Ant Sinclair Posted March 10, 2015 Author Posted March 10, 2015 (edited) Your words in Your posts seemed to Me You were implying Paul Hellyer was lying. So in plain english Strange in Your opinion is Paul Hellyer a lier??? ? Edited March 10, 2015 by Ant Sinclair -3
Strange Posted March 10, 2015 Posted March 10, 2015 Your words in Your posts seemed to Me You were implying Paul Hellyer was lying. So in plain english Strange in Your opinion is Paul Hellyer a lier??? ? I have said three times now that I am not saying he is a liar. I will type it again very slowly so you can follow: I AM NOT SAYING HE IS A LIAR. Okay?
Ant Sinclair Posted March 10, 2015 Author Posted March 10, 2015 Although, deliberately lying is infinitely more likely than aliens. So why all the word-play then Strange? ??? -1
Strange Posted March 10, 2015 Posted March 10, 2015 Although, deliberately lying is infinitely more likely than aliens. So why all the word-play then Strange? ??? As I said, I would put lying very low down the list of possible explanations. But I would put aliens even further down (because there is no evidence).
Ant Sinclair Posted March 10, 2015 Author Posted March 10, 2015 All I can read from His statement in the video was that He seemed(to Me) to being totally Sincere and would probably have had access to "insider" knowledge because of the position He held. Towards the end when Paul Hellyer's talking about shadow goverment/alien allegiance etc would it not seem to You that this would "fit" in to whats happening in the World today with all the misery taking place on nearly every continent? ???
Strange Posted March 10, 2015 Posted March 10, 2015 All I can read from His statement in the video was that He seemed(to Me) to being totally Sincere and would probably have had access to "insider" knowledge because of the position He held. As I say, I am sure he is sincere. However, there is no evidence so I will ignore these claims. Towards the end when Paul Hellyer's talking about shadow goverment/alien allegiance etc would it not seem to You that this would "fit" in to whats happening in the World today with all the misery taking place on nearly every continent? ??? No.
Ant Sinclair Posted March 10, 2015 Author Posted March 10, 2015 (edited) So Strange do You Believe All is "Hunky-Dory" in the Middle East, Africa and the Ukraine then? ??? You probably Believe that the radio-active fall out oozing into the pacific(and killing it) from Fukushima is just "BLISS" then??? ? Did You know Strange that a lot of Earths O2 (the stuff We breathe) is generated by phytoplankton on the Pacifics surface, if You do know this Strange then if that phytoplankton dies would Man-kind be in trouble??? ? Edited March 10, 2015 by Ant Sinclair -3
Strange Posted March 11, 2015 Posted March 11, 2015 So Strange do You Believe All is "Hunky-Dory" in the Middle East, Africa and the Ukraine then? ??? You probably Believe that the radio-active fall out oozing into the pacific(and killing it) from Fukushima is just "BLISS" then??? ? Did You know Strange that a lot of Earths O2 (the stuff We breathe) is generated by phytoplankton on the Pacifics surface, if You do know this Strange then if that phytoplankton dies would Man-kind be in trouble??? ? None of which has anything to do with aliens.
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