big bang theory is incorrect, more like little bangs

[Nightdancer]

To begin with I must confess that I am completely self taught on the matter and hope you forgive me for saying this.

 

I have noticed that all things come in as a cycle of 3, steel cans for example begin as iron oxide ore, this gets processed in phase 2 into steel cans (phase 3) which over time begin to transform themselves via rust back into their original form as iron oxide ore. The same things happen all over the place, copper for example and silver all oxidezes back into their original form. Life also had a beginning at conception where we grow older and die only to turn back into the raw components from which we came from, potash carbon and other trace elements. Even out bones eventually get the treatment over time and turn into fossils thus ending our own 3 phase cycle.

 

In the cosmos we know that supernovas and hyper-novas create star systems, planets and otherworldly beauties, and the stars collapse into black holes, now at the black hole all matter is compressed and channelled into one specific molecule, for this example I shall call the ND1 atom, these atoms are produced as the pure source of the universe where the black hole explodes and begins the cycle again as the aforementioned super/hyper-novas Now I know you are going to ask, if this is the case what came first? The answer is a simple one, the black hole was first. I will now begin to tell you how this was the case. In the beginning of the cosmos there was not a single atom to be found anywhere, only subatomic particles, these particles brushed against each other and in doing so caused friction which made the first electron in the form of static electricity.

 

These statically charged particles began to repulse similar charged particles and attracted polar opposites to make the first subatomic cluster the ND cluster I shall call it. Now these clusters began to attract others of its likeness and formed the ND1 atoms, over time, these atoms collided into each other to make the cores of the first black holes, how I hear you ask, Simply by being there an element of mass generates gravity no matter how small that mass is, now more and more ND1 atoms come together making a more denser cluster and in the process creates more gravity, then the fun began, it came to being that the gravity of these clusters outweighed the potentiality of growing in size and formed the first black holes.

 

Inside the first and future black holes you have 3 major components, the outer event horizon, inner event horizon and the core. Holes in space are not like the holes you find in your pockets, flat and unresponsive. Black holes are spherical in shape at their core due to the excessive gravitational forces it creates, now anything finding the outer event horizon gets drawn into the black hole so very slowly until it reaches the inner event horizon (and until now thought to cease to exist) but alas not the case. These masses are compressed into the smallest size they can be, moulded together and pressed into new ND1 atoms which began the universe. Now as the gravitational forces are too dense the atoms cannot gain in size, so the only thing they can do is to get heavier.

 

These super dense ND1 atoms can literally outweigh the effects of the gravitational forces trying to keep them imprisoned inside the black hole when enough of them are present they literally fly out of the inner event horizon and now they find themselves without the constrains of the super dense gravity they literally explode giving off their characteristic sound (called Hawking radiation) also as they are only seen in super-microseconds they are also known as the Higgs Boson God Particle. The hadron collider actually creates ND1 atoms and in turn micro black holes which as in this case explode as soon as they are made manifest due to the severe lack of gravitational forces to hold the ND1 atoms in place, as much as trying to fill a balloon with air at the bottom of the ocean and expecting to to be in one piece when it hits the surface.

 

Black holes are also said to be so dense that light cannot escape? But before I can explain the solution to this we must come to realise that light does not actually exist. It is in fact super fast sound waves travelling at ludicrous speed, how do I know this? It is simple, sound waves are picked up by our auditory system and through this, we hear our every day sounds, now when in the case of bats and dolphins emit sounds that are too high for us humans to hear these creatures can see the sound waves through their own built in echo location system bridging their audio and visual systems already in play, we on the other hand have to rely on machines to do this for us. Now when these frequencies get faster we begin to see them and have previously called them light waves to our own error. So now we have really fast sound waves travelling through the cosmos and they meet an event horizon of a black hole, so what happens now?

 

You have a black hole emitting ND1 atoms at a huge pace, these atoms are exploding everywhere all at once and making such an enormous amount of interstellar noise it actually cancels out the alleged light waves just in the same way you find yourselves in front of the speakers at a rock concert and trying to talk to the person next to you, resistance literally is futile and you might as well give up there is just too much sonic interference. Exactly in the cosmos when these super fast sound waves encounter a black hole.

 

Now finally we come to the death of a black hole, we know where these are placed in the universe because of their unique sound signature in the cosmos, think of it like a large tin with a few marbles in, at first they make a huge racket then as more and more marbles get placed in they reach a crescendo of noise then it dies away as there is less and less space available inside as it is taken up by these ND1 atoms, as soon as this happens the black hole hits critical mass and no longer able to hold all the ND1 atoms in its core then they all furiously attempt to escape into the universe resulting in a super or hyper-nova

 

The ND1 atoms explode all over the place, some discharging their electrons whilst others gaining the spare electrons making all the atoms we have in the periodic table and thus in turn creating the supernovas or hyper-novas respectively where the whole process begins to form new stars and planets ready to turn eventually back into the same black holes that born them in the first place.

Edited March 30, 2015 by Nightdancer

[Phi for All]

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Moderator Note

Since this is attempting to be a better explanation than current mainstream, I'm going to put this in our Speculations section. Try to provide as much evidence as possible every time you "assert" something.

 

We can't keep speculation in the mainstream sections where students go to study. Thanks for understanding, and good luck.

[Vexen]

If these are your own thoughts on the Big Bang Theory, I'm not willing to consider them. If you willing to refer me to an expert who proposed a similar concept, fine. But, I can't take the opinion of a self taught physicist seriously.

 

Talk about alternative theories in a unique manner (and provide references) but avoid suggesting your own Theory of the origin of the universe.

[Strange]

I have noticed that all things come in as a cycle of 3, steel cans for example begin as iron oxide ore, this gets processed in phase 2 into steel cans (phase 3) which over time begin to transform themselves via rust back into their original form as iron oxide ore. The same things happen all over the place, copper for example and silver all oxidezes back into their original form. Life also had a beginning at conception where we grow older and die only to turn back into the raw components from which we came from, potash carbon and other trace elements. Even out bones eventually get the treatment over time and turn into fossils thus ending our own 3 phase cycle.

 

You have just chosen three arbitrary points to fit your preconceptions. This is meaningless. It also tells us nothing about cosmology.

 

In the cosmos we know that supernovas and hyper-novas create star systems, planets and otherworldly beauties, and the stars collapse into black holes, now at the black hole all matter is compressed and channelled into one specific molecule, for this example I shall call the ND1 atom, these atoms are produced as the pure source of the universe where the black hole explodes and begins the cycle again as the aforementioned super/hyper-novas

 

Please explain how this model produces the distance-redshift relationship (Hubble's law), the exact temperature and nature of the CMB, and the proportions of hydrogen and helium in the universe.

 

Black holes are also said to be so dense that light cannot escape? But before I can explain the solution to this we must come to realise that light does not actually exist. It is in fact super fast sound waves travelling at ludicrous speed, how do I know this?

 

Please explain how light can travel through a vacuum.

Please explain why the speed of light is not the same as the speed of sound.

[pzkpfw]

There's a difference between "self taught" and "untaught, and making stuff up".

 

I'd suggest starting by learning what current science thinks, and why, and go from there.

[Vexen]

How can sound (displacement and compression of matter) and light (oscillations in the electromagnetic field) be the same thing? By definition they are different things?

 

It was funny reading this post. You could become a science comedian.

[imatfaal]

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Moderator Note

 

A bit more constructive criticism please and a complete absence of the sniping. For members guidance dismissing an argument because of the nature of the person making it is the very definition of an ad hominem: this is against the rules and pretty poor form - don't do it .

 

As always do not respond to this moderation.

 

[Mordred]

First off the big bang is not a kinetic explosion. Observation evidence shows us there is no preferred location or direction in the Universe. This means no point of origin and center.

 

You might want to read some related misconceptions in you exploding BH model.

 

For some reason this is usually the most common attempt for novices to describe the Big Bang. (Probably all the multimedia imagery)

 

These articles will help explain why a BH born universe doesn't work

 

http://www.phinds.com/balloonanalogy/: A thorough write up on the balloon analogy used to describe expansion

http://tangentspace.info/docs/horizon.pdf:Inflation and the Cosmological Horizon by Brian Powell

http://arxiv.org/abs/1304.4446:"What we have leaned from Observational Cosmology." -A handy write up on observational cosmology in accordance with the LambdaCDM model.

http://arxiv.org/abs/astro-ph/0310808:"Expanding Confusion: common misconceptions of cosmological horizons and the superluminal expansion of the Universe" Lineweaver and Davies

http://www.mso.anu.edu.au/~charley/papers/LineweaverDavisSciAm.pdf:"Misconceptions about the Big bang" also Lineweaver and Davies

Edited March 31, 2015 by Mordred

[Vexen]

Okay, I'm beginning to see why I have a bad reputation.

 

But,it was actually amusing reading this post. Having gone over basic physics throughout academicia, I found the basic errors funny.

 

Consider this statement about sound being able to transmute into light:

 

 

Black holes are also said to be so dense that light cannot escape? But before I can explain the solution to this we must come to realise that light does not actually exist. It is in fact super fast sound waves travelling at ludicrous speed, how do I know this? It is simple, sound waves are picked up by our auditory system and through this, we hear our every day sounds, now when in the case of bats and dolphins emit sounds that are too high for us humans to hear these creatures can see the sound waves through their own built in echo location system bridging their audio and visual systems already in play, we on the other hand have to rely on machines to do this for us. Now when these frequencies get faster we begin to see them and have previously called them light waves to our own error. So now we have really fast sound waves travelling through the cosmos and they meet an event horizon of a black hole, so what happens now?

 

This is almost like that parody online magazine called the Onion.

Edited March 31, 2015 by Vexen

[swansont]

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Moderator Note

 

Thus far I'm not seeing a discussion that complies with our guidelines for posting here. No model, no evidence, nothing testable, and some very different ideas that are contrary to mainstream physics, with nothing to support them.

 

So, we need to see some science, and sooner rather than later. This is not the "wild conjecture" section.

 

[Sensei]

But before I can explain the solution to this we must come to realise that light does not actually exist.

Any living organism can assure you that photons exist

They developed day life/night rest, a long time before developing any kind of eye.

Presence of light = higher temperature than in night/darkness.

You don't have to see whether there is day or night by naked eye.

You can feel it by your skin.

 

It is in fact super fast sound waves travelling at ludicrous speed, how do I know this?

This statement alone is worth -1 vote..

 

Sound waves don't travel in cosmos at all.

 

You can see & hear it by yourself watching any DIY rocket, like this one:

 

The higher altitude rocket is, the less and less we can hear sound recorded by attached camera..

And in vacuum we can hear no sound at all. Lack of medium (=air) to propagate sound waves.

At high altitudes of atmosphere particles are separated by great distance, atmosphere is vanishing.

 

If you don't want to play with home made rockets, you can get vacuum pump.

Place in container speaker generating sinus wave.

And start sucking air by pump.

Record from outside what sound is heard at what pressure.

[tyme]

I have noticed that all things come in as a cycle of 3, steel cans for example begin as iron oxide ore, this gets processed in phase 2 into steel cans (phase 3) which over time begin to transform themselves via rust back into their original form as iron oxide ore.

 

How does human product manufacturing have anything to do with the big bang? You know, even the iron ore is dug from the Earth's crust which give this cycle of yours 4 phases now. But of course the iron ore wasn't made there. The iron had to come from some place hot and under a lot of pressure, centres of stars, hurled into space through supernovas, meaning you need to add yet another stage. Said cycle could go on until the universe ends, if it will.

[Nightdancer]

ok the original post by a great man is being rediculed and misunderstood, he has given up due to the passive and totally unwarrented negative comments and destroyed his whole 30 year of research because of a difficulty in getting across what he is trying to say. well done for destroying him and his ambitions to do well for mankind.

[Strange]

You could take it as an opportunity to learn some real science.

[Mordred]

ok the original post by a great man is being rediculed and misunderstood, he has given up due to the passive and totally unwarrented negative comments and destroyed his whole 30 year of research because of a difficulty in getting across what he is trying to say. well done for destroying him and his ambitions to do well for mankind.

A great man would have spent the time learning why the current models work the way they do, then show how his model works better than the current understanding. (This would entail needing the mathematics)

[Phi for All]

ok the original post by a great man is being rediculed and misunderstood, he has given up due to the passive and totally unwarrented negative comments and destroyed his whole 30 year of research because of a difficulty in getting across what he is trying to say. well done for destroying him and his ambitions to do well for mankind.

 

Please tell Nightdancer (your dad, maybe?), that there were a few replies to his OP that were unacceptable, and I hope the moderators have pointed that out to everyone's satisfaction. Apologies for those.

 

But he was also given some excellent information refuting some of his foundational premises. He told us, in his first sentence, that he has no formal education in these matters. It shouldn't be a surprise that he might get some things wrong. It's better that he knows these things, right?

 

No ridicule was intended. Criticism of an idea in science is a necessary step in the process. Sharing ideas with others helps us figure out where we're wrong, and where we might be right, so we don't spend 30 years on something that turns out to be trivially false.

[Nightdancer]

the crazy thing about it, yes my dad is his account on here, although it sounds a little crazy if you all could have seen his work that he destroyed it practically made sense it is just that he cannot communicate it properly though any media which is a shame.

[ajb]

the crazy thing about it, yes my dad is his account on here, although it sounds a little crazy if you all could have seen his work that he destroyed it practically made sense it is just that he cannot communicate it properly though any media which is a shame.

There are things in the opening post that need a lot of clarifying; lots of it are just not stated correctly in the language of physics and some of it seems just nonsense. For example subatomic particles brushing against each other to make electrons?

 

 

It sounds sad, but your farther may have wasted a lot of his time and shows a lot of ignorance of basic physics. Sorry, but that is how it is.