MWresearch Posted April 18, 2015 Posted April 18, 2015 (edited) For a specific project where I seem to have exhausted most possibilities, any relevant suggestions would be appreciated. I need a list of substances or substance-like things which need to be particularly unique in some way, likely more general than specific. The substances could be anything from wood, rock, halogens, oxides, plasma, magnetic monopoles, neutronium, alcohol to anything with noteworthy properties. However, I cannot use substances that are purely fantasy or created out of thin air in movies and games. At the least they must be accepted as scientifically plausible. It also would not help to be overly specific. It wouldn't be worth mentioning acetic acid since the general term "acid" would suffice unless acetic acid has exceptionally interesting properties that separates it from all other acids. I can also accept particularly mysterious adjectives that can arouse curiosity, such as the words "old, futuristic, dream, cybernetic..." The substances and unique things I have are... Acid (or corroded substances) Air Alcohols Alkaline-Earth metals Alkali metals Amber Ash Asteroid Blood Bone Bose-Einstein Condensate Carbides Carbon (includes coal, graphite, diamond, nanotubes and C4) Chalcogens (oxygen group) Chitin (makes up bug exoskeletons and squid beaks) Chlorophyll Clouds Comet Crystal Degenerate Matter Dust Egg Electricity Energy Fat Ferrofluid Fiber (bread) Flint Foam Fractal Fruit (and vegetables) Gas Glass (includes obsidian and fulgurite) Glitter Ground (dirt, clay) Gun Powder Halides Halogens (fluorine group) Ice Keratin (includes hair, fur, feathers and bird beaks) Lanthanides Lava (or magma) Leaf Light Liquid Magnetic Material Magnetic Monopole (magnet with only a north or a south) Mercury (liquid metal) Metallic Hydrogen (hydrogen under enough pressure to act like a metal) Metal Mineral Mollusk Shell Mountain Mud Neutronium (neutrally charged degenerate matter) Noble Gases Oil Opal Ophiolite Crust Ore Oxides (materials with specific nonmetal oxygen bonds which Rust would fall under) Paper Photonic Matter Plasma (includes lightning) Plastic Poison (which pesticides and things like cyanide fall into) Pnictogens (nitrogen group) Radioactive Material (or actinides) Rare-Earth Metals Rock Latex (also rubber and gum) Sand Semimetals Shale Skin (includes leather, muscle tissue and organ tissue) Slime (synonym of goo and sludge) Snot Sound Waves Snowball Solid Storm Strange-matter Super-fluid Super-solid Taons Tar Treasure (precious metals) Ultraviolet Light Ununoctium Urea Waste WaterWaves Wax Wood Adjectives that can describe very unique substances, structures and events Amorphous Ancient Aristocratic (rich) Atomic Barren Bent Bombarded Bright Bulging Cavernous Changing Cimmerian (gloomy) Cold Corroded Cracked Cybernetic Dark Dead Dented Digital Docile Dreamy Dry Dying Ejected (includes marooned, castaway and jettisoned) Entangled Eroded Evil Exhausted Flat Forested Frozen Futuristic Good Graceful Heavy Hollow Hot Impoverished (poor) Invisible Igneous Large Light Living Loud Molten Monstrous Peaceful Phased Plentiful Pollen Primordial Quiet Rainbow Rainy Rejuvenated Rough Scarred Shattered Slowed Small Smooth Soluble Sped Superficial Temporal Terraformed Transformed Vampiric Violent Windy Undiscovered Undulating Edited April 18, 2015 by MWresearch
Acme Posted April 18, 2015 Posted April 18, 2015 (edited) Seed Pollen Tooth Paper Shell (mollusk, turtle) Beak (bird, octopus, squid) Edited April 18, 2015 by Acme
pavelcherepan Posted April 18, 2015 Posted April 18, 2015 (edited) Didn't see water in the list. That one is quite amazing. Sorry, my bad. See it now How about wax then? Edited April 18, 2015 by pavelcherepan
Acme Posted April 18, 2015 Posted April 18, 2015 Fire No bacon in the list? Yes; he wrote: "Skin (includes leather muscle tissue)". Arguably though, bacon has unique properties.ClayStarsSnotAdjectives:Manufactured (nests, fabrics, etc.)Camouflaged (Cuttlefish, insects, etc.) Spiraled
pavelcherepan Posted April 18, 2015 Posted April 18, 2015 (edited) Nouns: Bose-Einstein condensate Neutrino Solution Mineral Gunpowder Atom Nucleus Isotope Flint Foam Leaf Adjectives: Soluble Crystalline Amorphous Atomic Molecular Toxic Edited April 18, 2015 by pavelcherepan
MWresearch Posted April 18, 2015 Author Posted April 18, 2015 (edited) Thanks for those. Some of them I added like pollen which was a good one, snot, foam, egg, bose-einstein, flint. However, polymers are what plastic is made of. As for tooth and shell, those very closely resemble regular bones, a turtle shell is just a bunch of bones fused together. A squid beak is made of chitin, already on the list. I'm not exactly sure what to with bird beaks, because they are made of keratin which hair and fur and feathers are already made of. So I will just made a general keratin category. Leaf is part of my general plant category that includes chlorophyll because when people think of plants they think of green colors and leaves. Fulgurite I will leave under the obsidian/glass category since it is specific physical alteration of glass that is not outside of the typical capacity of glass, especially when you see all the glass blowing that people do. Fossiles are rocks in the shape of left over bones, I am not sure if I should create a category for them. Cells I am also unsure about, it seems too general because I already have plants (leaves), wood and skin and blood. With keratin it is only the arrangement or formation of molecules that changes between its sub-categories like different types of glass. Between plant tissue and animal tissue it is a combination of changes in the fundamental chemical composition as well as the structure and variety of functions. So, I think I should keep them separate. Amorphous and Soluble I will add, I like amorphous. As for wings...not sure if I can work in a specific piece of an animal like that, but I will put it on the list for the sake of having something. Edited April 18, 2015 by MWresearch
Acme Posted April 18, 2015 Posted April 18, 2015 Thanks for those. Some of them I added like pollen which was a good one, snot, foam, egg, bose-einstein, flint. However, polymers are what plastic is made of. As for tooth and shell goes those very closely resemble regular bones, a turtle shell is just a bunch of bones fused together. A squid beak is made of chitin, already on the list. I'm not exactly sure what to with bird beaks, because they are made of keratin which hair and fur and feathers are already made of. So I will just made a general keratin category. Leaf is part of my general plant category that includes chlorophyll because when people think of plants they think of green colors and leaves. Fulgurite I will leave under the obsidian/glass category since it is specific physical alteration of glass that is not outside of the typical capacity of glass, especially when you see all the glass blowing that people do.Roger; glad to help. I would argue that mollusk shell is not like bone insomuch as bone is not solid, it entraps cells, and has collagen as a constituent, whereas a mollusk's shell is solid, does not entrap cells, and has no collagen. As to chlorophyll, it also occurs in algae which have no leaves, xylem, or phloem. Another adjective: Cracked, as in dried mud, faults, etcetera.
Acme Posted April 18, 2015 Posted April 18, 2015 10-4. Just came back to argue for fulgurite, or at least lightning. I meant to add lightning but got distracted. While lightning is electric and can occur in storms (both already in your list), storms are not necessary and lightning emits x-rays, EMP's, and possibly (according to recent research) gamma rays which is not the case for all electric phenomena. Off to do some gaming and ponder your list & criteria.
MWresearch Posted April 18, 2015 Author Posted April 18, 2015 (edited) Lightning is an electrical discharge that creates plasma, specifically, I think it is fine as a subcategory. As for fulgurite, it is a physical alteration of general glass minerals, I think I can keep it in a sub-category. I wouldn't make a separate category for beach glass. Edited April 18, 2015 by MWresearch
pavelcherepan Posted April 18, 2015 Posted April 18, 2015 (edited) Latex (while similar to rubber latex is natural) Ore Coal Chondrite (one of material types of meteorites but specifically is important for understanding of Solar System formation) Bolide (Not Formula 1 bolide. It's similar to meteorite again, but it doesn't reach the surface and so is different) Air (I know you have gas already, but air is very specific and keep us alive so I'd include it too) Asteroid EDIT: Just went out for a smoke and thought of these things that I was inhaling: Tar Ash Edited April 18, 2015 by pavelcherepan
MWresearch Posted April 18, 2015 Author Posted April 18, 2015 (edited) Completely forgot Rare-Earth metals. Surprising no one caught it in the chemistry section. Oh wait nvm I did get that already, lanthanides. Edited April 18, 2015 by MWresearch
John Cuthber Posted April 18, 2015 Posted April 18, 2015 There are something like 100 million different chemical compounds known, and they are all uniquely identifiable. It's going to be a long list.
MWresearch Posted April 18, 2015 Author Posted April 18, 2015 There are something like 100 million different chemical compounds known, and they are all uniquely identifiable. It's going to be a long list. Not all of them are particularly interesting though.
John Cuthber Posted April 18, 2015 Posted April 18, 2015 Not all of them are particularly interesting though. They were interesting enough that someone synthesised and documented them. How do you define "interesting"?
MWresearch Posted April 18, 2015 Author Posted April 18, 2015 (edited) Something doesn't have to be anywhere near interesting to merely be documented, it just has to be different in the slightest possible way from something else that is already discovered. Interesting would be anything that has captured the public's interest, has been used in commonly known manufacturing, had science fiction or fantasy stories written about it, so versatile throughout history it is taught in middle and high schools, those sorts of things. Glass, water, wood, rock, dark matter, "are there magnets with only one pole (magnetic monopoles)?" "what is a neutron star made of (neutronium)?" "does Jupiter have a surface (metallic hydrogen)?" all fall under those conditions. But the thousands of compounds you're talking about (for instance any molybdenum compounds) usually don't meet those conditions. Edited April 18, 2015 by MWresearch
swansont Posted April 18, 2015 Posted April 18, 2015 Not all of them are particularly interesting though. But wouldn't the property of being unique and not interesting make them interesting? 1
MWresearch Posted April 19, 2015 Author Posted April 19, 2015 (edited) I have made it reasonably clear what the standards are and furthermore this is not the philosophy section. If you can think of a popular story about Molybdenum Trioxide and many of the other esoteric compounds and explain how it has captured the interest of the public around the world, you are free to explain. If you are honestly confused about the parameters, then use if whether or not the substance is esoteric as a rule of thumb. Generally, compounds for which you need more than a year of college to learn the existence of will not meet any of the conditions I've specified. Edited April 19, 2015 by MWresearch
John Cuthber Posted April 19, 2015 Posted April 19, 2015 It depends on your point of view. I once used some Mo foil as an impromptu crucible for something but overheated it. the MO3 that was produced formed rather beautiful crystals round the edges of the furnace where it condensed. You are right: this isn't in philosophy; it's chemistry. So, the fact that iron gave rise to the industrial revolution (or whatever) isn't relevant. It's also barely science, so what's it doing here?
studiot Posted April 19, 2015 Posted April 19, 2015 Can't see why anyone is arguing about molybdenum. Any toolroom monkey or motor mechanic should be able to tell you about the unique worth of molybdenum disulphide in mechanical engineering. 1
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