Questions

[james bond]

1- are the micro & macro evolution the same ?

does the creationists accepted micro evolution ?

 

2- is there an examples for natural selection ?

 

3- how can the wheels evolve from ground species?.. David Berlinski says it needs about 50 000 amendment.. so could that happened?

 

4-is the mutations based what the organism wants.. I mean, for example, there is light .. How can the organism make an organ that be effected by light ?

 

[Strange]

1- are the micro & macro evolution the same ?

 

As far as I know, yes.

 

does the creationists accepted micro evolution ?

 

Who care what cretinists accept.

 

2- is there an examples for natural selection ?

 

Of course. Loads.

 

3- how can the wheels evolve from ground species?.. David Berlinski says it needs about 50 000 amendment.. so could that happened?

 

As wheels have never evolved, it isn't really possible to answer that.

 

4-is the mutations based what the organism wants..

 

No.

[Endy0816]

Whales.

 

Berkeley has a good article on the subject.

 

http://evolution.berkeley.edu/evolibrary/article/evograms_03

 

Generally consists of them having evolved from aquatic mammals.

Edited May 9, 2015 by Endy0816

[H.sapiens]

"Wheels" have evolved ... well sort of, in the form of flagella and their origin and evolution are well reseached.

[Strange]

"Wheels" have evolved ... well sort of, in the form of flagella and their origin and evolution are well reseached.

 

I knew there was something itching at the back of my mind when I wrote that!

[H.sapiens]

BTW, with respect (and I have none for him) to Berlinski, considering him an middlingly skilled sophist at best:

 

Berlinski's enumerative “cows cannot evolve into whales” argument (Rationalwiki)

 

One of Berlinski’s most celebrated anti-evolution arguments is his calculation that at least 50,000 changes were required to change a cow into a whale (he stopped counting). Of course, since even if he was capable of listing out these differences at an implausibly fast average rate of one every ten seconds, it would still take more than 5 days of non-stop 24h-hour activity to accomplish this, few believe that he actually did what he claimed to have done.^[1] Berlinski does not, of course, know anything about the evolution of whales, missing such rather central details as the fact that cows did not evolve into whales.^[2]

 

 

(1) Berlinksi, whales, and why Intelligent Design can’t get no respect (the Bad Idea Blog):

 

A commenter expressed incredulity about my claim that ID proponents engage in deception and gross misrepresentations of science.

So to help prove my point in a timely fashion, along comes a video of Intelligent Design mathematician David Berlinski explaining why it’s implausible to imagine a cow evolving into a whale.

 

As many science bloggers have pointed out, we could just stop at the title: no possible understanding of evolutionary taxonomy could possibly lead one to believe that cows are relevant comparisons to the ancestors of whales and dolphins (amazingly, he even mentions a relevant ancestor, Ambulocetus, later in the video; so where did cows come from?). The entire thought experiment makes virtually no sense on any level, and his bizarre implication that biologists do not employ mathematics, let alone quantitative analysis, is just boldly ignorant.

 

But none of that even compares to sheer grandiose absurdity of Berlinski’s claim that he, with his supposedly unique grasp of the quantitative (i.e., in this case, counting) “stopped at” thinking of 50,000 differences between a cow and a whale, implying that he, personally, literally really did go through the process of listing them all out, one by one.

 

Here’s a bit of math for Berlinski: even if he was capable of listing out these differences at an implausibly fast average rate of one every ten seconds, it would still take more than 5 days of non-stop 24hr activity to accomplish this seemingly trifling task. Does he really expect anyone to believe that he actually did this? How was he sure that he didn’t double-count something during either in one marathon session of counting, or in many many counting sessions over many weeks? If he wrote anything down to prevent this sort of thing, that would just make the time required shoot upwards dramatically.

 

And what happened when he hit 40,000 after a few days of solid, uninterrupted counting? Does he really expect people to believe that he shrugged and said to himself “ah well, I might as well do 10,000 more, and then arbitrarily stop, just for kicks!”

 

Here’s a much more plausible explanation: Berlinski is full of it, and by my calculations, it wouldn’t even take a single morphological change to turn this guy into a laughingstock.

 

(2) Cows into Whales - Posted by Larry Moran (Professor of Biochemistry, University of Toronto):

Here's one of the chief IDiots, David Berlinski, expounding on how difficult it must be to change cows into whales. Berlinksi has a Ph.D. in philosophy and has written several books on mathematics. He is a Senior Fellow at the Center for Science & Culture (CSC).

Here's a free clue for the IDiots: cows didn't evolve into whales. Instead whales are the modern descendants of a primitive carnivore that lived over 50 million years ago. See the video at the PBS site for basic information on the evolution of whales—the sort of information that you'd expect anyone to know if they were going to criticize the scientific explanation for the evolution of whales [Whale Evolution]. Berlinski knows some of this history but he's missing the big picture. Berlinksi and most of his fellow fellows at the CSC don't know much about evolution and how it works. It's all a big mystery to them; but then, that's why they are IDiots.

 

https://www.youtube.com/embed/8iFnyCjcodY?

[Hat Tip: The video was posted on the Discovery Institute website by Robert Crowther, who presumably believes that the evolution of cows from whales (sic) is important.]

Edited June 21, 2015 by H.sapiens

[Fuzzwood]

Yes, that's why it is a cow, not a whale. Diversification usually comes with specialization.