1x0 Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 Why is there something rather than nothing? I know that matter and energy are interchangeable (one can be converted into the other) but can matter and energy come from nothing? Did the universe come from nothing or is there something which is eternal (has no beginning and no end) and this eternal thing is the cause of everything? Because information/intelligence will evolve. Anyone who reads this would not like to evolve? The Universe is evolving and that evolution´s starting point is most likely nothing. But can we count nothing as starting point? I mean this nothing has no space,time, energy, matter, information. It´s proportions are immeasurable. Than the first step of existence is something, everything in proportion to nothing but infinitely small in proportion to the currently observed physical reality. I would say that the first physical steps of the Universe has to be very delicate ones to support the process of evolution/evolving of the system. Otherwise we would observe reorganization instead of evolution and progress. Or? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strange Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 that evolution´s starting point is most likely nothing Do you have any evidence for that? I would say that the first physical steps of the Universe has to be very delicate ones to support the process of evolution/evolving of the system. Otherwise we would observe reorganization instead of evolution and progress. Just more baseless claims. (This is getting very boring. And has nothing to do with physics. Or even science.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1x0 Posted May 26, 2015 Author Share Posted May 26, 2015 Do you have any evidence for that? Just more baseless claims. (This is getting very boring. And has nothing to do with physics. Or even science.) The linear progress of time and the exponential expansion of space. You call that point singularity (infinitely small and infinitely dense point as start, but what is your evidence for that?) What makes you think it is not an evolution of the system rather what reorganization? Space shows signs of expansion(evolution) time show signs of progress, biological and physical information shows signs of evolution (heavy elements wasn´t present in the singularity as well as advanced biological information DNA or?) Isn´t is evidence? Why can not we count this as evidence? Why do you think if those physical entities shows signs of evolution then the whole system is not evolving rather it is just there. Where the presented infinite amount of energy in the singularity originates from? What do you think the Universe evolve or reorganize? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strange Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 The linear progress of time and the exponential expansion of space. You call that point singularity (infinitely small and infinitely dense point as start, but what is your evidence for that?) There is no evidence that there was any such singularity. What makes you think it is not an evolution of the system rather what reorganization? The big bang modeld escribes the evolution of the universe from an early hot, dense state. What does "reorganization" mean in this context, and how is it different from evolution? Where the presented infinite amount of energy in the singularity originates from? It isn't known whether the universe is finite or infinite. There is no reason to think there was a singularity. No one knows what happened before the time when our theories can be applied (ie. where the hot dense state "came from").. What do you think the Universe evolve or reorganize? I can't answer that as I don't know what the question means. (Sorry, cross-posted with swansont.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swansont Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 ! Moderator Note Split from http://www.scienceforums.net/topic/88212-can-matter-and-energy-come-from-nothing-why-is-there-something-rather-than-nothing/ Provisionally placed in speculations, pending enlightenment on the use of terms like reorganization, evolution and information Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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