Endy0816 Posted August 10, 2015 Share Posted August 10, 2015 http://www.sci-news.com/othersciences/geophysics/article00651.html That actually explains the number of Church related accounts fairly well. Invariably a window is mentioned. Might even explain the sulfur odor reported as sulfur is used in making a couple of colors of stained glass(blues and yellows). Probably not the only source, but would explain a number of historical observations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moontanman Posted August 10, 2015 Share Posted August 10, 2015 (edited) That actually explains the number of Church related accounts fairly well. Invariably a window is mentioned. Might even explain the sulfur odor reported as sulfur is used in making a couple of colors of stained glass(blues and yellows). Probably not the only source, but would explain a number of historical observations. One of the problems with the ET hypothesis is that so many divergent phenomena are labeled as UFOs and the term UFO is automatically taken to mean aliens that any real signal gets lost in the background noise. If there is a case for ETs visiting the Earth some of the reports need to be separated out, I think there is a fairly strong case that plasmoids could explain a lot of sightings and that many sightings are simply "me too", one person sees something unusual and many others claim the same to keep from being left out. Mass self delusion maybe is the correct term? I spend a lot of time looking into published sightings, maybe too much, and I honestly think only a very small percentage is of something truly mysterious. A large proportion of "UFO" pertains to things like sleep paralysis and various other brain errors. Then you have someone who sees an airplane from an unusual aspect ratio and immediately sees a UFO because he can't keep in in view long enough to see what it really is or because he wants to see a "UFO" he doesn't even try to see past his initial perception. As i have said before the idea that we should be picking up "leaked" signals from everywhere is fatally flawed but we do have cases where either it was an alien space craft or an outright falsehood, no third option is applicable. Some ancient sightings have to be either a mass delusion or alien space craft but I also wonder how much the aurora may have played even in modern sightings. When you see a glowing object several times as big as an aircraft carrier by multiple independent observers and it is in the polar regions I don't see how that can be ruled out. I think the idea of detecting lasers is a good idea but we maybe in the position of primitive people looking for smoke signals when the really advanced people are using neutrino beams or something we have no knowledge of. http://hozturner.blogspot.com/2012/09/towards-natural-plasma-explanation-of.html I think it is possible (highly speculative) that plasmoids themselves are alive and that could result in behavior that is lifelike to us, ie following airplanes or making patterns in the sky. Edited August 10, 2015 by Moontanman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robittybob1 Posted August 11, 2015 Share Posted August 11, 2015 That actually explains the number of Church related accounts fairly well. Invariably a window is mentioned. Might even explain the sulfur odor reported as sulfur is used in making a couple of colors of stained glass(blues and yellows). Probably not the only source, but would explain a number of historical observations. In the case of a plane is the ball lightning inside the plane or outside of it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Endy0816 Posted August 11, 2015 Share Posted August 11, 2015 (edited) I think it is possible (highly speculative) that plasmoids themselves are alive and that could result in behavior that is lifelike to us, ie following airplanes or making patterns in the sky. Everything I've read and personally heard about only suggests movement based on air pressure differences and electric fields. In the case of a plane is the ball lightning inside the plane or outside of it? Has been observed on both sides. I'm guessing changing society has altered(and is still altering) how often these are observed. Interesting to ponder at any rate. Edited August 11, 2015 by Endy0816 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robittybob1 Posted August 11, 2015 Share Posted August 11, 2015 .... I think it is possible (highly speculative) that plasmoids themselves are alive and that could result in behavior that is lifelike to us, ie following airplanes or making patterns in the sky. Where did that speculation come from? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moontanman Posted August 11, 2015 Share Posted August 11, 2015 Where did that speculation come from? https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn4174-plasma-blobs-hint-at-new-form-of-life/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robittybob1 Posted August 11, 2015 Share Posted August 11, 2015 https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn4174-plasma-blobs-hint-at-new-form-of-life/ I still have no idea what they are talking about yet. Shame they didn't attach some photos on their paper. http://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/0708/0708.4067.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strange Posted August 11, 2015 Share Posted August 11, 2015 (edited) I still have no idea what they are talking about yet. Shame they didn't attach some photos on their paper. http://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/0708/0708.4067.pdf You could look at some of jeremyjr's threads (He tried to use this paper - or something similar - as support for his ideas.) Edited August 11, 2015 by Strange Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airbrush Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 Has anyone wondered why ETs would have lights on the outside of their spacecrafts? Don't say their propulsion system requires it. If they have the technical ability to travel across such distances, you would think they have better stealth methods than lights on the outside of their ships, as if to say "Hello there, look at us, we are aliens". I think real aliens would not be seen because they are so far beyond us that it would be easy to evade us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moontanman Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 (edited) I still have no idea what they are talking about yet. Shame they didn't attach some photos on their paper. http://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/0708/0708.4067.pdf https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1952_Washington,_D.C._UFO_incident The 1952 sightings have long been considered a mystery with no single explanation really covering the entire phenomena, pictures of plasmoids? Any non descript glowing airborne object or daylight disc could be a plasmoid much like explaining any mystery with a mystery first you you would have to show evidence of plasmoids that is why I do not generally use one to explain the other but more as an indication that everything unknown does not have to be aliens... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plasmoid I'm not sure there are any photos of possible plasmoids that are not also being touted as UFOs. This photo was touted as a plasmoid but i am not sure that it supposed to be real: Edited August 14, 2015 by Moontanman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffellis Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 If we have been or are being visited by aliens, why would they hide underground and spy on us? If they have the technology to reach us physically, they are probably at least as intelligent as we are. I think an intelligent race would have better things to do. To answer your question "why look for them?" We look for them because they exist. They look for us as well. A day will come when we will find a comparable race of humanoids. I only hope that neither of us destroys the other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moontanman Posted October 15, 2015 Share Posted October 15, 2015 (edited) In the sense of unidentified objects, maybe. It is a large and unsupported leap from there to unicorns (or aliens). I do understand what you mean but structured craft have been detected on multiple independent radars, observed from the ground by multiple independent witnesses, interacted at close range with both civilian and military aircraft, over flown the capital of the US and photographed while doing so and the only thing that can be said for sure is they weren't ours or the russians.... This of course doesn't prove aliens but it makes you wonder just what could have done that all in just one sighting! I apologize for basically repeating one of my earlier posts but no one seemed to take it seriously on any level. This one sighting has to be important even if it was some sort of mass hallucination that in of it's self would be important... Edited October 15, 2015 by Moontanman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffellis Posted October 15, 2015 Share Posted October 15, 2015 Perhaps there are lifeforms that live in the thin blue line that surrounds earth. They might even mimick spacecraft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robittybob1 Posted October 18, 2015 Share Posted October 18, 2015 Perhaps there are lifeforms that live in the thin blue line that surrounds earth. They might even mimick spacecraft. What is the scientific term for this "thin blue line"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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