The only known microbial survivor of harsh interplanetary travel

[mustang292]

I just thought this was cool and the ramifications are incredible. Why was this never looked at as being an important discovery? -----> http://science.nasa.gov/newhome/headlines/ast01sep98_1.htm

[ku]

Interesting.

[Christ slave]

It is truly the discovery of evolution. I find it interesting that species can survive in only certain climates, so the environments they visit will be more likely of being inhabited if the environment is closer to the original source. Likewise, evolution doesn't exist solely on earth, but wherever life goes. So, whether a body walks here or on the moon, the traces of life are bound to be set. And since we go to places we can survive in, the traces of cells and other microorganisms are possible. It is environmental reproduction--planetary intercourse/birth.

 

In fact, earth life could have been spawned not by aliens "seeding us", but by some creature who, at the time, was evolved to the conditions of very ancient earthly climates. Likewise, some cells were left behind and the intercourse was taken whereby life grew up and overtook this planet. It's evolution at its finest, and it simply helps to make the universe look more like a forest rather than a single tree. You know, people being able to comprehend the entire forest rather than the tiny tree.

 

The universe is one big environment. As evolution gets more advanced and a species becomes able of planetary travel, the species (the traces/children) left behind by some other life form who traveled there long ago will be more capable of reuniting with it. So, at some point evolution is going to become very large by which every inch and ounce of the universe is full of some sort of organism evolved to it...be it a long, long tme or not. However, perhaps one day some lunar creatures will spring up and they'll be going in search and wonder of who they are or where they came from...and little do they know, they were produced by an ancestor who walked there long ago. This is the same locally, globally, and universally.

 

So, if scientists want to find their father, they should go back to when life first began, evaluate the conditions, and see if they can't try to discover what type of creature or where some creature would have come from. If you find earthly life's birth (source), you find the history. Essentially, at the very crux of it all the Spirit exists and is raising up children and all sorts of things. I, however, don't think earthly life (us) will be able to fully take the next step in evolution and finding our source until the spiritual awakening...because, if spiritual awakening exists (and I personally know it does), then this phase/cycle of being is the next essential uncovering/discovery that takes the veil from the beast-to-microorganism more to the beast-to-beast relationship. However, since time is endless and so is evolution, there is only one place where it will all come to an end (when evolution stops, since any microorganism is much further behind in evolution than the beast it was dropped from until of course an end comes)...and that is when things step out of time (consumption, growth, birth, and death) and step into the unchanging, everlasting being which is the light of the source, which is God--the Father of fathers.

 

So, while we came a long way from microorganism to beast, the beast we came from is most likely more spiritual now. So, until we growup and become spiritual, we're as separate as a microorganism trying to comprehend or equate itself to a fully functioning human-being. And, afterall, if we come from some other physical being, then where did that come from? And then that from that? What from where? What is the BEGINNING? The Father of all fathers is the source--the light of God.

 

As surely as monkeys exist in the jungle and now humans exist among them, so also creatures move from planet to planet or other areas and then seeds are laid. Like a dandilyon blowing in the wind, the seeds go all over the place until, eventually, although the first sprout of the dandilyon is much less than the yellow-flower, eventually the flower becomes. Evolution! What a complex world we live in! A world where horses from Spain can take over North America and cells from an earlier creature can be dropped during their vacation on earth and then one day grow up into a world of life.

[Aardvark]

I just thought this was cool and the ramifications are incredible. Why was this never looked at as being an important discovery? -----> [url']http://science.nasa.gov/newhome/headlines/ast01sep98_1.htm[/url]

 

Is this for definite?

 

If it is then does that mean that their was life on Mars some time in the past?

 

If that is the case it is absolutely fascinating, the implications are very broad.

[mustang292]

Apollo 12 Commander Pete

Conrad: "I always thought the most significant thing that we ever found on the whole...Moon was that little bacteria who came back and lived and nobody ever said [anything] about it."

 

This is what intrigued me. We took bacteria to the moon, left it completely open to the elements, and they came back alive, AND NOBODY EVER SAID ANYTHING ABOUT IT. The Mars thing is still indefinite.

[Aardvark]

Maybe Fred Hoyles wasn't completely cracked after all.

[mustang292]

Perhaps the most astonishing survivor of extreme living conditions is the common bacteria Streptococus mitis. Unknown to mission planners in 1967 a small colony of Streptococus bacteria traveled to the moon aboard Surveyor 3, stowed away inside the spacecraft's TV camera. Three years later when Apollo 12 astronauts returned the camera to Earth, scientists were astonished to find that the bacteria were viable. They had survived 3 years of hard vacuum, with no food or water.

 

This is more about what I'm talking about, and here is the site ---> http://science.nasa.gov/newhome/headlines/msad13jan99_1.htm

If anyone else can find more info, please add it. Thanks!

[Ophiolite]

Maybe Fred Hoyles wasn't completely cracked after all.

Those who thought Hoyle was nuts weren't looking at the data, but allowing themselves to be misled by Hoyle's own over enthusiasm for pan spermia. The diversity of environments available in an accreting proto-planetary disc greatly magnify the opportunities for the formation of pre-biotic materials (definitely) and life itself (possibly).