Coral Rhedd Posted April 4, 2005 Share Posted April 4, 2005 And what news source does not ask for money? Bandwidth' date=' research, and general operation costs money. Major media like CNN and Fox News don't operate for free, they get money from advertising as well as from cable and satellite monthly fees. Likewise, the sites I posted also cost money to operate, so they request donations. But, it all comes down to who you trust. Do you trust the CEO of Fox News and CNN in producing unbiased and truthful information? Do you trust the owners of the sites I posted? Most of us don't have the time or money to actually verify everything we read, so an element of trust is required in the news source. I trust my sources a lot more than the major media, that is all I can say.[/quote'] That is advertising you refer to and not a plea for donations to promote racial purity. No further comments! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asian Guy Posted April 4, 2005 Share Posted April 4, 2005 That is advertising you refer to and not a plea for donations to promote racial purity. No further comments! The bias and hypocracy in your posts are already showing, which proves my point that humans are all biased and irrational. Your last post is an emotional rant, not an objective analysis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skye Posted April 4, 2005 Share Posted April 4, 2005 What's the difference? One is an effort to tell you what happened, the other is an effort to tell you what to think about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan19_83 Posted April 4, 2005 Share Posted April 4, 2005 I usually watch sky news myself. can't really go wrong there. on the web I use http://www.rte.ie/aertel but unless your from Ireland, i wouldn't adivse using it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asian Guy Posted April 4, 2005 Share Posted April 4, 2005 One is an effort to tell you what happened, the other is an effort to tell you what to think about it. Based on this, pretty much every mainstream news source would then be propaganda. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YT2095 Posted April 4, 2005 Share Posted April 4, 2005 Based on this, pretty much every mainstream news source would then be propaganda. to greater or lesser degrees, yes. although "propaganda" is a bit strong of a word to use, "Bias(ed)" would be a little better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darth tater Posted April 4, 2005 Share Posted April 4, 2005 I get most of me news from reading the online editions of the major newspapers in the US, plus the online edition of the Telegraph in the UK. For my video news I watch Foxnews. I agree that Fox is biased toward the conservative side, but after watching the other 3 networks for many years and enduring their bias toward the liberal side, I kind of enjoy Fox. You do have to do your own editing however, but I am used to that from, as I said, watching CBS, NBC, ABC and lately CNN. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hellbender Posted April 5, 2005 Share Posted April 5, 2005 Anyway, this comes up a lot in discussions, and it seemed relevent here. I don't know which one Hellbender was referring to above, for example. Fox news at 6 and 11. sorry for not making that clear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hellbender Posted April 5, 2005 Share Posted April 5, 2005 OH! You poor young man! LOL no I don't really watch Tv with the exception of shows like Seinfeld reruns, scifi movies, national geo or the simpsons. The news isn't something I am all that interested in. If it is important, I will inevitabley hear about it sooner or later, but like similar to waht Mokele said, if it isn't about animals, I don't get too interested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Douglas Posted April 5, 2005 Share Posted April 5, 2005 Got this idea from Flareon's post in the USA thread. I thought about making this a poll' date=' but really I'm more interested in hearing what people think about their sources and why they chose them, rather than getting some numbers on which sources are most popular. Thoughts?[/quote']You might try this web site .... Discover What the World Thinks About U.S. at http://www.watchingamerica.com/ Views of America from about 200 newspapers across the globe....very interesting. I subscribe to the Boston Globe where I get my daily dose of liberalism and the Manchester Union Leader for the counterpoint. On TV, I watch Jennings, followed by Fox. On the web, I check out the above site, the guardian, Drudge and newsmax. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ku Posted April 6, 2005 Share Posted April 6, 2005 But, it all comes down to who you trust. Do you trust the CEO of Fox News and CNN in producing unbiased and truthful information? Do you trust the owners of the sites I posted? Most of us don't have the time or money to actually verify everything we read, so an element of trust is required in the news source. I trust my sources a lot more than the major media, that is all I can say.Big media companies usually have reputations on the line, so to protect themselves they should be honest. Small internet sites can costlessly get away with propaganda. The bias and hypocracy in your posts are already showing, which proves my point that humans are all biased and irrational. Your last post is an emotional rant, not an objective analysis.I've seen the links you've posted. They were racist sites. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aardvark Posted April 6, 2005 Share Posted April 6, 2005 I mainly get my news from the BBC world news website and newspapers. I find alternating between the Independent and the Telegraph gives a fairly balanced perspective. I find TV news too superfical, it just depresses me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pangloss Posted April 6, 2005 Author Share Posted April 6, 2005 This is no great relevation of course, but one of the most prominent commonalities I see in this thread is the idea that mainstream news sources are too superficial. This seems to be a common agreement amongst people who either work in scientific or engineering areas, or follow them as a hobby. It's interesting how the Web has filled that niche need so fully. These general feelings had to pre-exist the Web, but the scientist/intellectual was always restricted to traditional social structures, which the stereotype tends to avoid. Now we have places to go to talk about this stuff and really explore and investigate the detail that isn't available in a 30-minute network news broadcast. So this post won't be a total wash, let me toss out a few more favorite niche-market news sites: Aviation Week News: http://www.aviationnow.com/avnow/ Scientific American: http://www.sciam.com Federation of American Scientists: http://www.fas.org/main/home.jsp Global Security: http://globalsecurity.org/ How Stuff Works: http://www.howstuffworks.com/index.htm Electronic Privacy Information Center: http://www.epic.org/ Centrist Policy Network: http://www.centrists.org/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mokele Posted April 7, 2005 Share Posted April 7, 2005 Aha, I have found it! A news resource of such caliber that you can *know*, with 100% certainty, just how accurate every article is! I guarantee you will have *no* trouble determining the accuracy of any of these articles! Mokele Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted April 7, 2005 Share Posted April 7, 2005 rofl. Funniest thing I've read all week Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ophiolite Posted April 7, 2005 Share Posted April 7, 2005 BBC News 24 on TV BBC Radio 4 morning news with John Humphreys and six o'clock evening news, both when commuting. The Economist for in depth reading The Herald-Tribune when I am travelling Internationally http://www.spacedaily.com for astronomy/astronautics news Local on-line papers for a different perspective on International Events. e.g. The Houston Chronicle for a take on current oil prices; La Stampa for an Italian view on the Pope's funeral; etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donkey Posted April 7, 2005 Share Posted April 7, 2005 BBC News (mainly online, i watch a lot of the TV shows online (like the 1 o'clock and 10 o'clock news programmes) and News 24) Google News -> wherever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revprez Posted April 7, 2005 Share Posted April 7, 2005 Any News Corps stuff--best consistent open source intelligence anywhere. Pretty much all the major newspapers in a week, CNBC, occasionally MSNBC and CNN, followed by the news analysis and opinion periodicals. Rev Prez Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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