A List of Psychiatric Disorders, Presribed Medications, and Bio-Chemistry

[Asian Guy]

Please add to this list:

 

Attention Deficit Disorder: the individual can't focus on anything that requires attention to detail, he gets bored very easily, any does not have much motivation. He is only willing to engage in pure hedonism because anything else feels too much like a chore of painful proportions.

 

The causes for this is believed to be a deficiency of the neurotransmitters norpinprine and dopamine.

 

Medications for this include the latest non-stimulant drug Straterra. This is a norpinprine reuptake inhibitor which increases the concentration or norpinprine by blocking the receptors that uptake the norpinprine back into the neuron.

 

Another class of medications for this is amphetamines such as Ritalin, Concerto, and Aderol. These are Dopamine re-uptake inhibitors which increase dopamine levels. This can be experienced when intaking caffeine, which also increases dopamine levels, but caffeine is quickly metabolized and has a very short effect, while the prescription drugs have a much longer half-life.

 

There are no other medication types I am aware of for ADD.

[ed84c]

I have ADD acording to online doctor.

[Flareon]

Attention Deficit Disorder: the individual can't focus on anything that requires attention to detail' date=' he gets bored very easily, any does not have much motivation. He is only willing to engage in pure hedonism because anything else feels too much like a chore of painful proportions.

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Some people would say that just sounds like the individual is lazy and spoiled.

 

Children are that way. Eventually most grow up but do it by forcing themselves to act different, not because it happens 100% easily and naturally. I think only a few number of people actually suffer from some valid disorder, and the rest are just misdiagnosed and overprescribed for feel-good uppers.

[Nevermore]

OCD (Obsessive Compulsive Disorder)

The individual feels compelled to do certain actions over and over, or terrible things (eg. the death of a family member) will occure. These actions are called Rituals The individual knows that these rituals and the consequences of not completeing them are completely false, but feels compelled to do them anyway. Said rituals are different for each person.

The individual may also talk to themselves in their head, and well into a conversation before they know that their doing it.

Obsessive Compulsive Dissorder is related to Anxiaty dissorder, depression, PTSD, and torret's syndrom.

[Coral Rhedd]

Some people would say that just sounds like the individual is lazy and spoiled.

 

Children are that way. Eventually most grow up but do it by forcing themselves to act different' date=' not because it happens 100% easily and naturally. I think only a few number of people actually suffer from some valid disorder, and the rest are just misdiagnosed and overprescribed for feel-good uppers.[/quote']

 

I have ADD. The diagnostic criteria I know of describe it differently, not quite so judgmentally. Most people who have ADD/ADHD know well that trying to force oneself to concentrate only makes things worse. There are various compensatory strategies and devices that make coping with it easier. There are also medications used that are not listed in Asian Guy's post, but I am not interested in arguing with him. Must be too lazy, I guess.

[Flareon]

I wasn't saying that people who actually have ADD are lazy or anything else. I was saying that the "symptoms" listed by Asian Guy were indicative of mere laziness. Please refer back to my post and note that I highlighted only the portion of his post to which I wished to respond. The way he went about describing ADD ("gets bored easily...pursues hedonism because lack of motivation...") does not sound like a medical description of a neurological disorder; it sound like a description of bad habits.

 

To sum up, I wasn't being "judgmental' to people who suffer from ADD. I was being judgmental to: 1. Asian Guys description of ADD, and 2. doctors who misdiagnose and overprescribe when it comes to ADD, of which incidentally I have some personal experience.

[Coral Rhedd]

I wasn't saying that people who actually have ADD are lazy or anything else. I was saying that the "symptoms" listed by Asian Guy were indicative of mere laziness. Please refer back to my post and note that I highlighted only the portion of his post to which I wished to respond. The way he went about describing ADD ("gets bored easily...pursues hedonism because lack of motivation...") does not sound like a medical description of a neurological disorder; it sound like a description of bad habits.

 

To sum up' date=' I wasn't being "judgmental' to people who suffer from ADD. I was being judgmental to: 1. Asian Guys description of ADD, and 2. doctors who misdiagnose and overprescribe when it comes to ADD, of which incidentally I have some personal experience.[/quote']

 

You're right. I wasn't actually saying you thought that. So I guess I quoted the wrong person. Perhaps I have bad forum manners.

 

I think there is some overprescription for ADD, but if people do enough reading they can almost diagnose themselves. I knew I had ADD for ten years before I actually got a diagnosis. The hyperactive part is usually diagnosed (or maybe even overdiagnosed in children), and the inattentive type is underdiagnosed in adults. Too many people mistakenly think ADD is something that only kids have.

 

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Here's a link that provides more info on the disorder summarizing the views one of the foremost experts

 

http://www.schwablearning.org/Articles.asp?r=54

[Krul]

ADD is a real neurological disorder which mainly causes problems with concentrating.

 

However a diagnosis can NOT be gotten by taking an online test somewhere. If you score high it means that there is an indication, nothing more.

A real diagnosis must be gotten by a psychologist and through a wide spectrum of tests.

 

No "mental" disorder can be accurately diagnosed by yourself, because people are not objective about their traits.

[Coral Rhedd]

ADD is a real neurological disorder which mainly causes problems with concentrating.

 

However a diagnosis can NOT be gotten by taking an online test somewhere. If you score high it means that there is an indication' date=' nothing more.

A real diagnosis must be gotten by a psychologist and through a wide spectrum of tests.

 

No "mental" disorder can be accurately diagnosed by yourself, because people are not objective about their traits.[/quote']

 

Krul, I suggest you visit an ADD/ADHD forum where people tell story after story or how they went to doctors and were diagnosed with everything but ADD/ADHD. Then they say that they always felt they had it. That's not a diagnosis I suppose because it is not officially by a doctor, but people do have some insight into their own mental processes. And what do doctors generally use to diagnose this disorder? Tests that rely on self-reporting.

 

I "knew" I had ADD or something very much like it for 10 years before I finally got a doctor to take me seriously. That's because most doctors have no clue how to diagnosis ADD.

 

If people think they have it, they should see a psychiatrist or psychologist that specializes in diagnosing the disorder. School personnel should not be doing it. One purpose of an "official" diagnosis is to receive medications, accomodations, coaching, or other benefits. Another is so that tinkering nonspecialist don't fill you full of medications you don't need -- like antidepressants.

 

By the way, I am currently suffering from allergies. It happens every year at this time when the male mulberries send forth their pollen to the mostly nonexistent female mulberries. After, 10 years of this, I have a clue. I just call up my doc and ask her to renew my prescription.

[Nevermore]

Okay, some medications:

A- C- Zoloft: aka setraline. an SSRI. Used as an anti depressant and to treat PTSD, OCD, and other stress related dissorders. Works like freakin' magic.

 

A- B(breifly)-Clindomyacin: An ultra heavy duty antibiotic. Given for staph infections. Taking is is not plesant, is comes in giant 500 mg horse pills, and gives you stomach pain from hell.

 

A- B- Cipro: Similar to clindomyacin, given to cure psudomonis, a disease that newts get. Psodomonis is rare in humans. Also not plesant.

 

C(breifly)-Riddilan: A legalized type of methamphetamine. given for ADD. IMO, Riddalin messes with you about as much as an axe to the skull. No way in hell am I taking that. Ever. Even if I had ADD.

 

B-Depacote: Given to relieve the taker of epeleptic seziers. My sister takes it. Also works like freakin' magic.

 

B-Trileptal: Another medication for epelepcy. Made my sister's seizures worse though.

 

Wow, over the years, my family has taken alot of medicine. Medicines marked A I took.

B my sister took. C my mom. My dad seems to be lucky.

[Krul]

Krul' date=' I suggest you visit an ADD/ADHD forum where people tell story after story or how they went to doctors and were diagnosed with everything but ADD/ADHD. Then they say that they always felt they had it. That's not a diagnosis I suppose because it is not officially by a doctor, but people do have some insight into their own mental processes. And what do doctors generally use to diagnose this disorder? Tests that rely on self-reporting.

 

I "knew" I had ADD or something very much like it for 10 years before I finally got a doctor to take me seriously. That's because most doctors have no clue how to diagnosis ADD.

 

If people think they have it, they should see a psychiatrist or psychologist that specializes in diagnosing the disorder. School personnel should not be doing it. One purpose of an "official" diagnosis is to receive medications, accomodations, coaching, or other benefits. Another is so that tinkering nonspecialist don't fill you full of medications you don't need -- like antidepressants.

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I am sure that on such forums you will find all types of stories about misdiagnosing and other stuff, but what you also have to consider Coral is that for each person on that forum who has AD(H)D there might be up to a dozen people NOT on that forum who thought/claimed to have AD(H)D but found out they actually didn't. Their stories are not reported mostly, so it's hard to base any conclusions upon that.

 

You are absolutely right that most doctors have no clue what AD(H)D actually is and how to diagnose it correctly, that's why there are psychiatrists/psychologists.

 

About diagnosing yourself; Any person with mild autism will score quite high on the PCL-R ( psychopathic checklist ), so if you would be diagnosing yourself anybody with autism would also have psychopathy........

 

People can certainly get an idea about whether they have a disorder or not, but they just can not diagnose themselves correctly. Not only because most tests are designed to be filled in by a psychologist, but also because people can talk themselves into believing lots of different things. People can get obsessed in variable degrees easily, think about stalking, OCD's, hypochondriac's etc.

[Coral Rhedd]

You are absolutely right that most doctors have no clue what AD(H)D actually is and how to diagnose it correctly' date=' that's why there are psychiatrists/psychologists.

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Actually, I was referring to psychiatrists. Maybe I saw some awfully bad ones in my quest to find a solution to my memory problems. Mostly, they only wanted to focus on depression, but SSRIs not only exacerbated depression but made my memory much, much worse. They did not take a history that addressed my memory problems. Two refused to test me for ADD, one saying it only occured in children and that if I couldn't submit proof from a doctor that I had had it as a child, then I couldn't possibly have it.

 

Not all psychiatrists are created equal and not all are specialists in ADHD/ADD.

 

About diagnosing yourself; Any person with mild autism will score quite high on the PCL-R ( psychopathic checklist ), so if you would be diagnosing yourself anybody with autism would also have psychopathy........

 

Could you expand on this? I am not understanding you -- especially since you are now discussing autism.

 

People can certainly get an idea about whether they have a disorder or not, but they just can not diagnose themselves correctly.

 

If they think they have the disorder and ultimately tests and an expert's opinion confirms their thinking, then were they not correct?

 

Not only because most tests are designed to be filled in by a psychologist, but also because people can talk themselves into believing lots of different things. People can get obsessed in variable degrees easily, think about stalking, OCD's, hypochondriac's etc.

 

Yes, I know this. However, why should psychiatry be a realm where people cannot also correctly speculate upon their illness? A person who falls off a building may correctly speculate that he has broken his leg, why can a person who has had long term problems with short term memory and who has done some reading in the subject correctly speculate she has ADD?

 

Is the disagreement we are having about the word diagnosis? Or is about people thinking for themselves about their own minds?