ensea2004 Posted September 30, 2015 Posted September 30, 2015 Recently I found a paper about new theory. It seems a kind of digital physics. The paper is located at this link http://figshare.com/articles/Nokton_theory/1549720 Is it a good candidate to be a theory of everything ?
andrewcellini Posted September 30, 2015 Posted September 30, 2015 is the paper published in any reputable peer reviewed journals?
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Sensei Posted September 30, 2015 Posted September 30, 2015 is the paper published in any reputable peer reviewed journals? It doesn't matter. What matter, if it can predict everything what we know today.. Starting from spectral lines of Hydrogen, then to Deuterium, and Helium..
ensea2004 Posted September 30, 2015 Author Posted September 30, 2015 First, can space and time both discret, unlike general relativity. Second, I found that the idea resolve the measurement problem in quantum mechanis.
studiot Posted September 30, 2015 Posted September 30, 2015 Well it seems to me that the paper contains a self contradiction since in the opening discussion it restricts the scope of the theory to rational numbers, but then goes on to discuss Euclidian norms, which use the square root. Can you throw any light on this? Second, I found that the idea resolve the measurement problem in quantum mechanis By this I assume you mean the Heisenberg uncertainty principle, which is inherent in the pure mathematics of the operators involved and does not really present a problem.
Strange Posted September 30, 2015 Posted September 30, 2015 First, can space and time both discret, unlike general relativity. Does he present any evidence for this? Second, I found that the idea resolve the measurement problem in quantum mechanis. Can you explain how.
ensea2004 Posted September 30, 2015 Author Posted September 30, 2015 There is no contradiction because it used with D^4. For heisenburg principale, I don't have any idea but, it's possible to discover onther form of this principale.
studiot Posted September 30, 2015 Posted September 30, 2015 There is no contradiction because it used with D^4. I don't follow. For heisenburg principale, I don't have any idea but, it's possible to discover onther form of this principale. Yes, Heisenberg's application is not the only application of the uncertainty principle. Its effects are normally insignificant in the macro world (larger than atoms). He was the first to apply it to the micro sub atomic world where it is hugely significant. Do you understand where it comes from? Once you see the connection between the mathematics and the real world it really is very simple and beautiful.
ensea2004 Posted September 30, 2015 Author Posted September 30, 2015 Does he present any evidence for this? It's a hypothesis. I think Loop Quantum Gravity use a discrete space and time. Can you explain how. Because the theory use a well definited states for all noktons. The probability of displacements forces us to take all possible paths. I don't follow. k -x ( i,t, Γ ) = .... /D(i,j,t, Γ ) 4 -1
andrewcellini Posted September 30, 2015 Posted September 30, 2015 (edited) It doesn't matter. it does if you don't want to get the article from that specific link in the op, which i don't. the title of the paper would be good enough as i could look into other places to read it. i don't disagree with the rest of what you've posted. Edited September 30, 2015 by andrewcellini
studiot Posted September 30, 2015 Posted September 30, 2015 (edited) Why does this not contradict this definition Let be a number between 1 and 3. If this number is rational, then we can presentit accurately using a finite number of bits (bits of information). If instead it isirrational as p= sqrt(2) then it is impossible to present it with a finite number of bits. Further if there are only a finite number of noktons how can intermediate and in particular irrational values of measure be achieved? Edit spelling. Edited October 1, 2015 by studiot
ensea2004 Posted September 30, 2015 Author Posted September 30, 2015 It's about rules. Il think the rules must be rational. we are always sqrt(x)2=x.
studiot Posted September 30, 2015 Posted September 30, 2015 Then explain how the stated rules allow the conditions I have described. "I think .... must be...." does not cut it. You have not replied to my comment about the uncertainty principle, have you given up on that?
ensea2004 Posted September 30, 2015 Author Posted September 30, 2015 (edited) No idea. But the theory defines some kind of observables. It use a prabability. So we can calculate mean, standart deviation... Edited September 30, 2015 by ensea2004
Mordred Posted October 1, 2015 Posted October 1, 2015 (edited) I wouldn't place any faith in this theory. For one thing his paper shows zero correlations to known formulas for comparison. Searches on it didn't reveal a single peer review. There is also zero correlations to the applicable symmetry groups such as SO(3), SO(2) and U(1). Besides anyone claiming a theory of everything in a mere 18 pages should raise a red flag. Edited October 1, 2015 by Mordred
ensea2004 Posted October 1, 2015 Author Posted October 1, 2015 Some notions are completely different from quantum mechanics and standart model like symmetries, observable... I think the author search for help.
studiot Posted October 1, 2015 Posted October 1, 2015 What suprises me is that having been told there is a body of mathematics that develops a much more general situation than the over-restricted mathematics presented in the paper, you are not interested. I have not checked that the Schwarz inequality will lead to the paper's results but they look similar.
ensea2004 Posted October 1, 2015 Author Posted October 1, 2015 What suprises me is that having been told there is a body of mathematics that develops a much more general situation than the over-restricted mathematics presented in the paper, you are not interested. Can you explain more. I have not checked that the Schwarz inequality will lead to the paper's results but they look similar. Where ?
Strange Posted October 1, 2015 Posted October 1, 2015 Anyone read the paper ? Doesn't sound worth the time.
ensea2004 Posted October 1, 2015 Author Posted October 1, 2015 (edited) Il found an article about Dr. Edward Fredkin and digital philosophy. http://www.digitalphilosophy.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/nsmin.pdf Edited October 1, 2015 by ensea2004
Strange Posted October 1, 2015 Posted October 1, 2015 Il found an article about Dr. Edward Fredkin and digital philosophy. http://www.digitalphilosophy.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/nsmin.pdf How is that relevant to the subject of the thread?
ensea2004 Posted October 2, 2015 Author Posted October 2, 2015 They are some common ideas, like using a grid and rules. States are updated by step. But there's a difference : Edward Fredkin uses a deterministic rules and nokton theory uses some kind of probabilities.
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