Der_Neugierige Posted October 17, 2015 Posted October 17, 2015 (edited) What kind of frequency is considered to be a very deep male voice? 100HZ? 90HZ? 80HZ? I want to do later as scientist a genome wide association study of human voice level. I speculate that you can find out which SNPs in which genes do have an influence on human voice level. I would messure the human voice level of 20'000 men. Then I would do my study in this way: I take every man that has a deeper voice than 80HZ. And compare their genotype data with all men who have a higher voice than 80HZ. And then I would take every man who has a deeper voice than 85HZ and would compare with every men who has a higher voice. Is this succesfull? Edited October 17, 2015 by Der_Neugierige
RyGuyFly Posted October 17, 2015 Posted October 17, 2015 I don't have a definite answer but "very deep" is relative. Certain cultures/languages tend to talk softer or at a higher pitch so what would be considered "very deep" in those would be different from a culture/language that encourages males to talk in a very deep voice. It would be interesting to see how much of that is genetic. Although I suspect a lot of it is learned.
MonDie Posted November 1, 2015 Posted November 1, 2015 There will be no consistent frequency. You might take average frequency, but even that will probably be influenced by posture, self-presentation, or even mood.
John Cuthber Posted November 1, 2015 Posted November 1, 2015 If you can actually do this "I would measure the human voice level of 20'000 men. " then the problem goes away. Just look at the genome of the highest pitched 5% and the lowest pitched 5% Those men will be the unusually low and unusually high ones whatever frequency "normal" might be. There are still problems with measuring a single frequency for speech- you would need to take some sort of average. Also, the physics suggests that bigger men will have lower voices. If you don't allow for that, you may find genes for height, rather than anything specifically to do with voices.
pavelcherepan Posted November 1, 2015 Posted November 1, 2015 (edited) If we look at musical voices, lowest frequency male voice is the bass. As the article says, the standard range from this type of voice is beween E2 and E4 which is 82.4-329.6 Hz. For females the deep voice is contralto which is between 174.6-698.5 Hz. I take every man that has a deeper voice than 80HZ. I doubt you'll have much luck with that. On average the lowest fundamental frequency for the male voice is about 85Hz. Hence, you're not very likely to find someone who can produce 80 Hz at all. Edited November 1, 2015 by pavelcherepan
overtone Posted November 2, 2015 Posted November 2, 2015 (edited) Height to voice is not a simple pitch relationship: http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2013/12/131207-sounds-voices-height-tall-short-science-health/ Male voices that can produce 80 Hz tones are common - I can, for example, normally sing a low D (one note below a standard pitch guitar's bass string), which is about 73 - 74 Hz. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piano_key_frequenciesAnd I do not have a notably deep voice - a bit deeper than average, only. Edited November 2, 2015 by overtone
Der_Neugierige Posted November 2, 2015 Author Posted November 2, 2015 Height to voice is not a simple pitch relationship: http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2013/12/131207-sounds-voices-height-tall-short-science-health/ Male voices that can produce 80 Hz tones are common - I can, for example, normally sing a low D (one note below a standard pitch guitar's bass string), which is about 73 - 74 Hz. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piano_key_frequenciesAnd I do not have a notably deep voice - a bit deeper than average, only. I mean the keytone. I mean the keytone. This is interesting, because I read on elitepartner.ch that women prefer men with deep voice. And we know human voice level is strongly influenced by genes.
NV6R Posted February 16, 2023 Posted February 16, 2023 On 11/1/2015 at 6:51 PM, pavelcherepan said: If we look at musical voices, lowest frequency male voice is the bass. As the article says, the standard range from this type of voice is beween E2 and E4 which is 82.4-329.6 Hz. For females the deep voice is contralto which is between 174.6-698.5 Hz. I doubt you'll have much luck with that. On average the lowest fundamental frequency for the male voice is about 85Hz. Hence, you're not very likely to find someone who can produce 80 Hz at all. Very old post, but I felt a need to say something. A male with a bass voice typically averages under 100Hz when speaking and down to a D2 when singing. It also should be noted, my average vocal frequency is 77Hz, although, I can sing without extended techniques down to an E1 (40Hz). The average vocal frequency of a person cannot be changed like some people earlier in this thread indicated; that is dictated by both the length and thickness of the vocal folds. Basically, you cannot speak with a frequency you are not capable of without using extended techniques; such as subharmonics or fry, which are nearly impossible to carry through all forms of phonation to create a vocal F0 (average vocal frequency).
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