losfomot Posted April 6, 2005 Posted April 6, 2005 Is it possible to strip an object, or material (for example, a strip of aluminum foil) completely free of electrons?
BenSon Posted April 6, 2005 Posted April 6, 2005 It is possible to remove all the electrons on the smalllll scale i think they do even exist in space naturally. To remove all the electrons from a whole piece of metal though i dont know. If i had to guess though i would say it could be done (Im pretty sure ive seen pics of gold in atom smashers and they remove all the electrons for that). Its easyer to do with atoms with smaller nucleus because as you remove the electrons the resultant electrons are less atracted to the nucleus. I mean its quite easy to take all the electrons of hydrogen happens all the time aluminium is another matter though. ~Scott
5614 Posted April 6, 2005 Posted April 6, 2005 An H+ ion (a positive hydrogen ion) would have 0 electrons.
swansont Posted April 6, 2005 Posted April 6, 2005 Is it possible to strip an object, or material (for example, a strip of aluminum foil) completely[/b'] free of electrons? Yes. It's called a plasma
losfomot Posted April 6, 2005 Author Posted April 6, 2005 Yes. It's called a plasma So, if you remove the electrons from a solid it will fall apart into ionized gases?
muhali3 Posted April 6, 2005 Posted April 6, 2005 Its not always a plasma. it could be an alpha particle also.
The Thing Posted April 7, 2005 Posted April 7, 2005 Yes. He2+ ions. Also, in dative (coordinate) covalent bonding involving hydrogen, the hydrogen would be H+ and requiring 2 electrons from a donor.
swansont Posted April 7, 2005 Posted April 7, 2005 So, if you remove the electrons from a solid it will fall apart into ionized gases? Yes, it would. How would it stay together?
mmalluck Posted April 7, 2005 Posted April 7, 2005 My physics college professor once stated that if you took someone and were able to force a mere 1% more electrons into thier body than they normal have, that the repulsive force of the electrons would cause this unlucky person to fly apart. The converse is also true. If you took away all of the negative charges, again the positively charged nucleuses would repel each other and you'd no longer have a solid. You'd have cloud of positively charged particles trying to get away from each other, or a plasma.
Silencer Posted April 7, 2005 Posted April 7, 2005 My physics college professor once stated that if you took someone and were able to force a mere 1% more electrons into thier body than they normal have, that the repulsive force of the electrons would cause this unlucky person to fly apart. I'm feeling an interesting experiment coming on...
losfomot Posted April 7, 2005 Author Posted April 7, 2005 Hmmm, so its conceivable that, if a person were to have all their surface electrons stripped from them, said person might appear to spontaneously combust? (just a thought that came to me) Is it possible to create a negative charge without the involvement of electrons (or muons or tauons)?
The Thing Posted April 8, 2005 Posted April 8, 2005 It takes energy to strip away the electrons. Heat a gas to over 6000 degrees and THEN it will send off its electrons and start being a giant cloud of ionized gas. Yes it is possible to create a negative charge without electrons or muons or tauons. Antiprotons .
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