kos Posted November 1, 2015 Share Posted November 1, 2015 So in one respect psycologically there is a theory that brain is evolutionary proceeding overconfidence as a survival mode. Any our assumption is under that condition . In the other respect we now know that in the brain microtubules the scientists found quantum vibrational modes. So if the quantum mechanics is obeyd by the kingdom of uncertanity so how it is possible our brain to proceed the first process of overconfidence ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iNow Posted November 1, 2015 Share Posted November 1, 2015 I don't understand what you are asking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strange Posted November 1, 2015 Share Posted November 1, 2015 So in one respect psycologically there is a theory that brain is evolutionary proceeding overconfidence as a survival mode. I'm not sure what that means. Perhaps you could provide a reference to this theory? In the other respect we now know that in the brain microtubules the scientists found quantum vibrational modes. There is no evidence that this has anything to do with consciousness. So if the quantum mechanics is obeyd by the kingdom of uncertanity so how it is possible our brain to proceed the first process of overconfidence ? I don't really understand the question. But I don't see why the brain being either based on quantum effects or being fully deterministic has much significance to the way it works to produce confidence, or any other aspect of consciousness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrewcellini Posted November 1, 2015 Share Posted November 1, 2015 (edited) There is no evidence that this has anything to do with consciousness. further, there is evidence that it is probably functionally irrelevant. http://arxiv.org/abs/quant-ph/9907009 Edited November 1, 2015 by andrewcellini 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kos Posted November 1, 2015 Author Share Posted November 1, 2015 http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2835426/https://news.osu.edu/news/2015/09/14/youre-not-irrational-youre-just-quantum-probabilistic/ the first suggest the opposite of second . What is the bigger true ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strange Posted November 1, 2015 Share Posted November 1, 2015 Maybe you should request the moderators move this to the neuroscience forum... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swansont Posted November 1, 2015 Share Posted November 1, 2015 http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2835426/https://news.osu.edu/news/2015/09/14/youre-not-irrational-youre-just-quantum-probabilistic/ the first suggest the opposite of second . What is the bigger true ? The second link points out that the claim is NOT that QM processes are involved, just that the same math can be used. Just like if classical probability is used, it does not mean a coin is actually flipped (or dice rolled) in you head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRB@89 Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 The total energy of the Universe is always conserved, so if somethings changes then there will be a change in other thing to counter act that change. Think it as Eddy currents as there is a change in magnetic flux, there is a induction of voltage and current in the opposite direction so as to counter act that change. So, our here our brain is a function of protean. As the condition changes, to counter act that change our brain will choose two options, either to adapt(which is learned helpness) or to counter act that change by doing something. So the overconfidence in some is just the end result of those two options. And as the Prof. Schrodinger says "at microscopic scale, two or more things can exist at the sametime.", so thats just the end result, nothing much. -1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strange Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 The total energy of the Universe is always conserved Actually, it isn't. http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/physics/Relativity/GR/energy_gr.html http://www.preposterousuniverse.com/blog/2010/02/22/energy-is-not-conserved/ http://motls.blogspot.co.uk/2010/08/why-and-how-energy-is-not-conserved-in.html If you think about cosmological red-shift, this is obviously true. Apart from that, this appears to have nothing to do with the subject of the thread. Although it is not entirely clear what that is... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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