Positive eugenics

[Moreno]

If governments would widely implement positive eugenics, could we create such world: all people around us are highly moral, intelligent, polite, altruistic and prone to help each other?

[Strange]

No.

[Delta1212]

Everyone who has ever pushed a eugenics program has thought they were conducting "positive eugenics." That's one of the major problems with the idea of eugenics.

[Phi for All]

It's irrational to think any solution could work on everyone. And eugenics seems to show that what one person thinks is a solution may be everybody else's worst nightmare.

 

I think the OP's stance is utopian and unrealistic.

[Arete]

This is copypasta from a previous eugenics thread, however it applies here too:

 

a) For multi-genic, environmentally correlated, abstractly interpreted traits like intellect and personality traits, there is so many interactions between variable genotypes that a selective breeding regime is highly unlikely to produce a predictable outcome.
b) Any selective breeding regime decreases Ne (effective population size) which reduces the genetic variability of a given population, which has demonstrably negative impacts on the evolutionary potential of the population in question.
c) Selective elimination of individuals in which recessive deleterious conditions from the breeding population will not significantly reduce the expression of those genes, which are carried without expression in a much larger proportion of the population than the proportion in which they are expressed e.g. for every sufferer of an autistic condition, there are 35 silent carriers of the associated genes.

So eugenics violates basic population genetic principles, reduces the evolutionary potential of a population and ultimately doesn't work.

Edited January 25, 2016 by Arete

[John Cuthber]

If governments would widely implement positive eugenics, could we create such world: all people around us are highly moral, intelligent, polite, altruistic and prone to help each other?

Can we start "positive eugenics" by preventing people who believe that eugenics can be positive from breeding?

 

Seriously, why is it that people understand that biodiversity is a good thing, but forget that exactly the same thing applies to us?

[Phi for All]

Can we start "positive eugenics" by preventing people who believe that eugenics can be positive from breeding?

 

Smart phone app. Mention eugenics positively and you're automatically issued a ticket for the first round. It should make you smell bad too, in case you meet a girl on the way to the deletion center.

[kisai]

highly moral, intelligent, polite, altruistic and prone to help each other?

 

Do you possess knowledge of genetic markers for these traits?

 

It just struck me that if you had the power to make only highly moral, intelligent, polite, altruistic, and humanitarian people breed with one another, the human race would go extinct.

Edited January 25, 2016 by kisai

[John Cuthber]

 

Do you possess knowledge of genetic markers for these traits?

 

It just struck me that if you had the power to make only highly moral, intelligent, polite, altruistic, and humanitarian people breed with one another, the human race would go extinct.

Possibly as a result of a virulent disease contracted from a dirty telephone.

 

 

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