iNow Posted February 16, 2016 Share Posted February 16, 2016 Think I probably read that a while back and forgot. Appreciate the reminder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imatfaal Posted March 3, 2016 Author Share Posted March 3, 2016 Interesting rumour regarding filling Scalia's seat; there is a bit of politicking going on as the judge has - in the past - been fulsomely endorsed Senator Grassely who has the say-so on whether the confirmations go ahead as Chair of the Senate Judiciary Committee http://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/03/us/politics/white-house-vetting-jane-kelly-judge-supreme-court.html?rref=us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swansont Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 "The president is expected to make his selection in the next couple of weeks, a decision that could reshape the court for decades ..." I don't think so. I think it will reshape the court until the next justice steps down. We don't know who that is, and who the president will be that would replace him/her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imatfaal Posted March 3, 2016 Author Share Posted March 3, 2016 "The president is expected to make his selection in the next couple of weeks, a decision that could reshape the court for decades ..." I don't think so. I think it will reshape the court until the next justice steps down. We don't know who that is, and who the president will be that would replace him/her. With two octogenarians on the Court I think the NYT was reaching for well worn phrases without putting a lot of effort into the reality of the scenario Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iNow Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 (edited) The notorious RBG (Ginsberg) is the most likely next retirement, IMO. Edited March 3, 2016 by iNow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imatfaal Posted March 3, 2016 Author Share Posted March 3, 2016 The notorious RBG (Ginsberg) is the most likely next retirement, IMO. Only five of the current justices would be allowed to serve in UK courts due to age - and another two or three would be kicked off for being complete and utter bozos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
overtone Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 Senator Grassely who has the say-so on whether the confirmations go ahead as Chair of the Senate Judiciary Committee He is up for re-election this year, with Republican control of the Senate at some risk, and the judge involved is well respected in his State - (also fulsomely praised by him, not three years ago). In addition, one of his campaign memes is battling gridlock he blames on Obama. If this judge is nominated and accepts the nomination, this is going to be fun to watch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iNow Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 Only five of the current justices would be allowed to serve in UK courts due to age - and another two or three would be kicked off for being complete and utter bozosI've heard some interesting ideas lately (largely via political podcasts) that introduce the idea of a term limit for SCOTUS judges. Nothing too short, but long enough to have a meaningful career and help avoid some of the "judge for life / get a young person appointed and you lock it in for decades" issues we face today. Scalia was there for 30+ years. What would happen if we introduced something like a 17 year limit? Note: There's also a lot of talk right now about the possibility of nominating/approving nobody to replace him, effectively changing the makeup of the court to only have eight total justices. Fascinating to consider, but apparently there's historical precedent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StringJunky Posted March 4, 2016 Share Posted March 4, 2016 (edited) I've heard some interesting ideas lately (largely via political podcasts) that introduce the idea of a term limit for SCOTUS judges. Nothing too short, but long enough to have a meaningful career and help avoid some of the "judge for life / get a young person appointed and you lock it in for decades" issues we face today. Scalia was there for 30+ years. What would happen if we introduced something like a 17 year limit? Note: There's also a lot of talk right now about the possibility of nominating/approving nobody to replace him, effectively changing the makeup of the court to only have eight total justices. Fascinating to consider, but apparently there's historical precedent. Either way, it's just political wangling for either party to get the upperhand, isn't it? Sad really, justice should be free from political bias. I think it's already been said, that politicians should make policy and justices should decide if those policies are legal and constitutional, not whether they agree politically/personally with it or not Edited March 4, 2016 by StringJunky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iNow Posted March 4, 2016 Share Posted March 4, 2016 I shared this recently in a thread focused on political affiliation in the judiciary. Same point applies here: http://www.scienceforums.net/topic/93520-political-affiliation-in-the-judiciary/#entry905962 They'd likely say they're unaffiliated, just using the "correct" interpretation of the constitution... That its unrelated to party or politics, even though some parties and politicians happen to share their stance/approach. Edit: Just realized that's your thread. Lol. Oops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
overtone Posted March 4, 2016 Share Posted March 4, 2016 (edited) Either way, it's just political wangling for either party to get the upperhand, isn't it? Not really - at least, not like it's been recently, for one of the Parties. There used to be a safety factor built into the high general intellectual status required of a respectable nominee, including wide experience, which coupled with the lifetime appointment put them outside the ability of political operatives to reliably predict their behavior. So we had key judges in the Muhammed Ali case, for example, successfully advocating for a decision quite at odds with the political desires of the faction that had appointed them. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Marshall_Harlan_II (Note as well the influence of this Justice, a strict adherent to precedent and nominated to be so, on future decisions of the Court such as Roe v Wade). In the modern day we see such nominations as Robert Bork, Clarence Thomas, and Harriet Meiers, and the Court diminished. Compare, for example, this nomination with that of his ideological and philosophical predecessor Harlan above: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samuel_Alito Note the difference in quality, and apparently consequent increased political predictability of ruling. Edited March 4, 2016 by overtone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imatfaal Posted March 16, 2016 Author Share Posted March 16, 2016 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-35823234 Judge Garland, 63, is the chief judge of the Washington appeals court and a former prosecutor. He was appointed by Democratic President Bill Clinton in 1997, winning confirmation in a 76-23 Senate vote. Prior to that, he served in the Justice Department during the Clinton administration. We shall see how the Republicans respond 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangerx Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 The "Biden Rule"? Since when did Republicans hang on anything Joe said, no less a rule that doesn't exist in law. Lies, lies and more lies from the obstructionist Party of No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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