Strange Posted March 13, 2016 Share Posted March 13, 2016 I assume it is from here: https://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Efekt_Dopplera Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StringJunky Posted March 13, 2016 Share Posted March 13, 2016 (edited) The Google translation looks perfect. The problem is your understanding, not the translation. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Relativistic_Doppler_effect#Transverse_Doppler_effect https://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Relatywistyczny_efekt_Dopplera x-posted with Strange Edited March 13, 2016 by StringJunky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdEarl Posted March 13, 2016 Share Posted March 13, 2016 (edited) I assume it is from here: https://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Efekt_Dopplera I understand why he is confused. redkiss, When the perpendicular motion is in a straight line, the observer and light source get further apart, and that causes Doppler. However, your pictures are different, your light source and observer stay a constant distance from each other; thus, no Doppler. Edited March 13, 2016 by EdEarl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redkiss Posted March 13, 2016 Author Share Posted March 13, 2016 I WILL FIND THIS PARAGRAPH ( wait .... I looking ....) Przypisy David Halliday, Robert Resnick: Fizyka. T. II. Warszawa: Państwowe Wydawnictwo Naukowe, 1972, s. 427 - 430. Doppler, C.A.: Über das farbige Licht der Doppelsterne und einige andere Gestirne des Himmels. 1842. Tekst w niemieckich Wiki-źródłach (niem.). de.wikisource.org. [dostęp 2010-05-20]. Fale dźwiękowe. W: Robert Resnick, David Halliday: Fizyka. T. 1. Warszawa: Wydawnictwo Naukowe PWN SA, 1998, s. 511 - 517. ISBN 83-01-09323-4. Erik Gregersen: The Britannica Guide to Sound and Light. The Rosen Publishing Group, 2011, s. 293 - 295. ISBN 1615303006. Nobelprize.org: Johannes Stark – Facts (ang.). Nobel Media AB 2013. [dostęp 2013-09-28]. Propagacja fal w próżni. [dostęp 2014-05-29]. William Cronk Elmore, William C. Imore, Mark A. Heald: Physics of Waves. Dover Publications, 1985, s. 164 - 166. ISBN 0-486-64926-1. Andrzej Kajetan Wróblewski, Janusz Andrzej Zakrzewski: Wstęp do fizyki. Warszawa: Państwowe Wydawnictwo Naukowe, 1984, s. 104 - 105. ISBN 83-01-01359-1. Yuri Ivanov: Rhythmodynamics:RD interpretation of the results of Michelson’s experiment. Gabriel LaFreniere: Matter Is Made of Waves:Electron. Gabriel LaFreniere: Matter Is Made of Waves:Ivanov Waves. Andrzej Kajetan Wróblewski, Janusz Andrzej Zakrzewski: Wstęp do fizyki. Warszawa: Państwowe Wydawnictwo Naukowe, 1984, s. 232 - 239. ISBN 83-01-01359-1. Piotr Cieśliński: Kosmiczne błędy. [dostęp 2014-06-09]. Peter R. Hoskins, Kevin Martin, Abigail Thrush: Diagnostic Ultrasound: Physics and Equipment. Cambridge University Press, 2010, s. 85 - 87. ISBN 9781139488907. Rozporządzenie Ministra Gospodarki z dnia 9 listopada 2007 r. w sprawie wymagań, którym powinny odpowiadać przyrządy do pomiaru prędkości pojazdów w ruchu drogowym, oraz szczegółowego zakresu badań i sprawdzeń wykonywanych podczas prawnej kontroli metrologicznej tych przyrządów pomiarowych (Dz. U. z 2007 r. Nr 225, poz. 1663) Opis wibrometru William H. Guier, George C. Weiffenbach. Genesis of Satellite Navigation. „Johns Hopkins Apl Technical Digest”. 19 (1/1998) (ang.). Piotr Kaniewski. System nawigacji satelitarnej GPS, cz. 1. „Elektronika Praktyczna”. Cezary Ziółkowski, Józef Rafa: Przestrzenno-częstotliwościowe uwarunkowania lokalizacji źródeł fal radiowych wykorzystującej efekt Dopplera. Wojskowa Akademia Techniczna, Wydział Elektroniki, Instytut Telekomunikacji, 2007. [dostęp 2014-05-29]. Michael Smotherman, Walter Metzner. Effects of Echo Intensity on Doppler-Shift Compensation Behavior in Horseshoe Bats. „Journal of Neurophysiology”. 89, s. 814-821, 1 lutego 2003. American Physiological Society. DOI: 0.1152/jn.00246.2002. Nowy radar w Polsce. [dostęp 2014-05-31]. Sergiusz Chmielak: Inne mniej inwazyjne metody pomiaru rzutu minutowego serca. [dostęp 2014-05-29]. Rodzaje prezentacji w badaniach USG. [dostęp 2014-05-29]. Echokardiografia. [dostęp 2014-05-29]. Andrzej Paluszkiewicz: Przewlekłe niedokrwienie kończyn. [dostęp 2014-05-31]. Andrzej Sołtan: Rozszerzanie się Wszechświata. [dostęp 2014-06-01]. Katarzyna Mikulska: Zderzenie galaktyki Andromedy z Drogą Mleczną. luty 2014. [dostęp 2014-06-01]. D.J. Erskine, J. Edelstein: Externally Dispersed Interferometry for Planetary Studies (ang.). SPIE Optics & Photonics, San Diego, CA, United States, 12.08.2005. [dostęp 2014-04-20]. G.A.J. Hussain: Inferring coronal structure from X-ray lightcurves and Doppler shifts - a Chandra study of AB Doradus. NASA, 2005. [dostęp 2014-06-10]. ESA: Engineering – Probe Data Relay Subsystem (ang.). [dostęp 2010–07–02]. Materiały pomocnicze do Ćwiczenia VIII. [dostęp 2010-05-22]. Barbara Baran: Badanie dwuwymiarowych struktur atomowych. W: Uniwersytet Jagielloński [on-line]. [dostęp 2014-06-02]. Ewald Hiebl: Christian Doppler: life and work, principle and applications. Living Edition, 2007, s. 31. ISBN 9783901585098. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdEarl Posted March 13, 2016 Share Posted March 13, 2016 There is no Doppler in you system. You misunderstand what you read in Wikipedia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redkiss Posted March 13, 2016 Author Share Posted March 13, 2016 (edited) I understand why he is confused. redkiss, When the perpendicular motion is in a straight line, the observer and light source get further apart, and that causes Doppler. However, your pictures are different, your light source and observer stay a constant distance from each other; thus, no Doppler. YOU SEE MY MISTAKE ? ( OK PLEASE WAIT i WILL STUDY ABOVE BOOKS list .............. ) ...... WAIT PLEASE IT IS MANY JOB ( FEW WEKS OR dayS ?? ) THANK YOU FOR PATIENCE mistake ? 1 ,2 , 3, - source POSITION source = 3 hz 1',2',3' - sensor position Edited March 13, 2016 by redkiss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdEarl Posted March 13, 2016 Share Posted March 13, 2016 (edited) I ask ajb to help. He is assistant professor at the Institute of Mathematics of the Polish Acadamy of Sciences at Warsaw. I sent him a PM. Hope he will help. Edited March 13, 2016 by EdEarl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strange Posted March 13, 2016 Share Posted March 13, 2016 I understand why he is confused. redkiss, When the perpendicular motion is in a straight line, the observer and light source get further apart, and that causes Doppler. However, your pictures are different, your light source and observer stay a constant distance from each other; thus, no Doppler. He is referring to the relativistic Doppler effect which does work in this situation. However as there is no relative motion on his example, there is no relativistic Doppler either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redkiss Posted March 13, 2016 Author Share Posted March 13, 2016 (edited) I ask ajb to help. He is assistant professor at the Institute of Mathematics of the Polish Acadamy of Sciences at Warsaw. I sent him a PM. Hope he will help. THANK YOU VERY MUCH ( each opinion more is important ) PLEASE not show me reply I want to study ALONE - all my drawings I prepared alone ( I think that I not misunderstand words that I translated - my drawing showing RED) better example is here ( I showed speed respect to center - I not measured this problem it is only example to study problem ) on my eyes I see 1/3 Hz shift we no need speak about Big Planet universe is very very big 600 000 km it is not big distance Expantion ? it is possible that we see red because we have Rotation ? - we no need linear motion ( escape ) to see Red ( thank You for help again ... please study my post it is natural when one person see something new it is new and he is able make small mistake but ... it could be small mistake ... ) The Google translation looks perfect. The problem is your understanding, not the translation. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Relativistic_Doppler_effect#Transverse_Doppler_effect ??? I will be in shock if I misunderstand wiki and I found something very important for physics ??? sometimes stupid IDEA = NEW ??? Edited March 13, 2016 by redkiss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strange Posted March 13, 2016 Share Posted March 13, 2016 I will be in shock if I misunderstand wiki and I found something very important for physics ??? sometimes stupid IDEA = NEW ??? Don't worry. There is no chance of you being in shock. Sometimes a stupid idea is just wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swansont Posted March 14, 2016 Share Posted March 14, 2016 ! Moderator Note It seems that redkiss is a sockpuppet account. We will waste no more time on this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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