TheVat Posted March 25 Posted March 25 Now another artist, a London-based artist who operates under the name The Misfortuneteller, says the idea was stolen from him. https://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/2024/mar/25/its-not-banksys-its-mine-artist-says-bristol-plaque-to-adulterer-is-a-copy Who put up the plaque commemorating the “husband, father, adulterer” – which included the payoff line “Roger, I knew” – remains unknown. But while locals speculated that Banksy may have been involved, another artist has now suggested they are the victim of a rip-off. The London-based creator, who operates under the name The Misfortuneteller, said he created a near-identical plaque in March 2020 after wandering around New York’s Central Park and looking at the inscriptions on benches. “Plaques are fine but they’re not really that truthful,” he said. “I wanted to do honest memorial plaques. Bittersweet ones.” He mocked-up a series of images featuring offbeat tributes to the deceased. Some of the designs were sold as real engraved plaques. An ex-girlfriend is commemorated with a real-life plaque reading: “For Barbara – Who was awful when hungry but otherwise pretty solid.” Others took on a life of their own after going viral, often being shared without credit or posted by meme aggregation accounts on Instagram. No one bought his design paying tribute to a “cherished husband, dad and adulterer”, even though the image proved popular online. As a result, The Misfortuneteller said he was surprised to see his original design and phrasing reappear on the Bristol bench this week, prompting him to say: “It’s not Banksy’s; it’s fucking mine.”
StringJunky Posted March 25 Posted March 25 2 hours ago, TheVat said: Now another artist, a London-based artist who operates under the name The Misfortuneteller, says the idea was stolen from him. https://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/2024/mar/25/its-not-banksys-its-mine-artist-says-bristol-plaque-to-adulterer-is-a-copy Who put up the plaque commemorating the “husband, father, adulterer” – which included the payoff line “Roger, I knew” – remains unknown. But while locals speculated that Banksy may have been involved, another artist has now suggested they are the victim of a rip-off. The London-based creator, who operates under the name The Misfortuneteller, said he created a near-identical plaque in March 2020 after wandering around New York’s Central Park and looking at the inscriptions on benches. “Plaques are fine but they’re not really that truthful,” he said. “I wanted to do honest memorial plaques. Bittersweet ones.” He mocked-up a series of images featuring offbeat tributes to the deceased. Some of the designs were sold as real engraved plaques. An ex-girlfriend is commemorated with a real-life plaque reading: “For Barbara – Who was awful when hungry but otherwise pretty solid.” Others took on a life of their own after going viral, often being shared without credit or posted by meme aggregation accounts on Instagram. No one bought his design paying tribute to a “cherished husband, dad and adulterer”, even though the image proved popular online. As a result, The Misfortuneteller said he was surprised to see his original design and phrasing reappear on the Bristol bench this week, prompting him to say: “It’s not Banksy’s; it’s fucking mine.” Why do people get antsy about stuff. Nobody creates in a vacuum.
iNow Posted March 26 Posted March 26 5 hours ago, StringJunky said: Why do people get antsy about stuff. Nobody creates in a vacuum. Property rights are the root of wealth transfer across generations and our selfish genes practically demand it
MSC Posted March 26 Posted March 26 7 hours ago, StringJunky said: Nobody creates in a vacuum. Actually, Astronaughts on the ISS going on Spacewalks do. Sorry, was the joke section so couldn't resist. Didn't someone else independently invent calculus around the same time that Isaac Newton did? I forget his name, German guy. Him and Newton hated each other. It wouldn't be that crazy for two people with a similar sense of humour to look at memorial benches and come up with this though. How tf can someone own putting bittersweet messages on memorial benches? Or what if that bench isn't a joke at all but serious? 1
Eise Posted March 26 Posted March 26 1 hour ago, MSC said: Didn't someone else independently invent calculus around the same time that Isaac Newton did? I forget his name, German guy. Him and Newton hated each other. Leibniz. See Leibniz–Newton calculus controversy. 1
TheVat Posted March 26 Posted March 26 17 hours ago, StringJunky said: Why do people get antsy about stuff. Nobody creates in a vacuum. $$$, unfortunately . Though in this case, trying to define a joke like that as intellectual property is really reaching IMO.
swansont Posted March 26 Posted March 26 11 hours ago, MSC said: Didn't someone else independently invent calculus around the same time that Isaac Newton did? I forget his name, German guy. Him and Newton hated each other. It wouldn't be that crazy for two people with a similar sense of humour to look at memorial benches and come up with this though. How tf can someone own putting bittersweet messages on memorial benches? Or what if that bench isn't a joke at all but serious? Yeah, independent creation happens all the time*. Especially on a smaller scale than calculus. “you stole my idea” is pretty common, too *I’ve got a cartoon sketch about dinosaurs watching a triceratops and claiming to be tricurious, and Colbert made a similar joke on his show a few years later. Nobody stole the idea from me, and it’s a fairly obvious play on words. Not the only time something like this happened to me. 2
MSC Posted March 26 Posted March 26 38 minutes ago, swansont said: Yeah, independent creation happens all the time*. Especially on a smaller scale than calculus. “you stole my idea” is pretty common, too *I’ve got a cartoon sketch about dinosaurs watching a triceratops and claiming to be tricurious, and Colbert made a similar joke on his show a few years later. Nobody stole the idea from me, and it’s a fairly obvious play on words. Not the only time something like this happened to me. Nor me, only yesterday I found out some random idea I had about nuclear propulsion was dreamed up in 1941. It's either a case of collective consciousness or just the reality that intelligent people looking at reality intelligently will come up with similar ideas. The earliest examples being pyramids. It doesn't take much to understand that a low entropy stucture like a pyramid will withstand the test of time far longer than an obelisk will. 10 hours ago, Eise said: Leibniz. See Leibniz–Newton calculus controversy. Thank you! Knew it was a German name. The consensus in the end was that they'd both developed calculus independently, although I do find the timing curious, which is why I mentioned Jungs collective consciousness in my response to swansont. Anyway sorry for making the joke thread less about jokes. I can't find my off switch.
iNow Posted March 27 Posted March 27 8 hours ago, MSC said: I can't find my off switch. Would it help if I flipped you off?
MSC Posted March 27 Posted March 27 6 minutes ago, iNow said: Would it help if I flipped you off? No need, you entered the room. Trust me, I'm turned off already..
Mordred Posted March 27 Posted March 27 3 hours ago, TheVat said: Should we keep quick-tempered people in a short fuse box? Nitro glycerine factory
iNow Posted March 27 Posted March 27 I thought it was clever. Didn’t think anyone would explode over it
Phi for All Posted March 27 Posted March 27 1 hour ago, iNow said: I thought it was clever. Didn’t think anyone would explode over it I got a chilly reception for my idea for designer underwear for scientists: Kelvin Klein. 1
swansont Posted March 27 Posted March 27 3 hours ago, Phi for All said: I got a chilly reception for my idea for designer underwear for scientists: Kelvin Klein. Kelvin Klein. For your absolute unit. 1
TheVat Posted March 27 Posted March 27 5 hours ago, Phi for All said: I got a chilly reception for my idea for designer underwear for scientists: Kelvin Klein. Sounds like junk science. 1
toucana Posted March 28 Posted March 28 2 hours ago, swansont said: Kelvin Klein. For your absolute unit. If your absolute unit is at 0°K, then you should probably seek medical advice ? 1
Phi for All Posted March 28 Posted March 28 On 3/27/2024 at 6:35 AM, TheVat said: Should we keep quick-tempered people in a short fuse box? That sounds like my wife. The other day she told me she doesn't understand cloning. I said, "That makes two of us!"
Phi for All Posted March 28 Posted March 28 59 minutes ago, Moontanman said: Dad jokes... eeewww! That reminds me, are you interested in joining my professional hide-and-seek team. Turns out, good players are hard to find. 2
Moontanman Posted March 28 Posted March 28 5 minutes ago, Phi for All said: That reminds me, are you interested in joining my professional hide-and-seek team. Turns out, good players are hard to find. Groan!
Phi for All Posted March 28 Posted March 28 4 minutes ago, Moontanman said: Groan! I feel your pain. Perhaps you should stop dating tennis players, Moon. Love means nothing to them. 2
TheVat Posted March 31 Posted March 31 On 4/9/2023 at 10:54 AM, TheVat said: What's cute and fluffy and full of glycerides? The ester bunny. What's cute and fluffy and passed out on the lawn? The ether bunny. 1
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