Christ slave Posted April 18, 2005 Share Posted April 18, 2005 I've considered, and it's becoming increasingly more apparent that this is so. If you look at the ocean and then see the way things evolve upwards, onto land, and then into the air, you will indeed be able to look at a gnat, a fly, or even a bird as if it were a fish in the ocean--swimming, with fins (their wings) in a sea of air with coral-reef trees and the like. If you look at a gnat, or any other flying insect, you begin to see that their entire life is revolved around flying. But just what does this mean? A fish's life is also revolved around swimming...perhaps we should look at them the same. They're not very different, the air is to a gnat what the water is to a fish. Then there's variations of birds, like the many different species of fishes and mammals in the ocean. At any rate, if we're swimming upward, then what is next? Outer space...and, we're not far from it, as like a bird we leap from this nest called earth in rockets and whatnot more and more frequently, learning to make it on our own until we become like flying fish (or, birds of the higher worlds, outside of earth). Now, if we need rockets to live in outer space and travel and whatnot, and we simply cannot go without them, then sooner or later we will need to man the vehicles. If rockets could pick up food from outerspace and we managed them likewise, if children were born into outerspace and then this geneline continued, eventually the rocket may be as dillusional as a soul who thinks their true form is the person (the physical flesh-body). They would care and manage it, maintain it, control it, etc. very frequently. Perhaps overtime they would simply begin to become so dillusional that they believe the rocket is actually an extension of their true form, rather than a tool. Likewise, the technology we create now may in essence become a dilluded attachment like a safety blanket to someone in the future, as the generations and environments begin to revolve around it more, and so evolution and psychology begin to evolve and become warped into thinking that the very windows of the rocket, or cameras, or whatever are truly the eyes, and if they look not at the windows, they are blinking. Essentially, they begin to equate the rocket to their true form, believing them to be much higher-evolved species than anything else, as they have the power to leap from planet to planet (nest to nest) in flight. I had read somewhere recently that they found microorganisms surviving against the oddsm out of the elements, in the environment of the moon. This just goes to show that microorganisms can and do evolve to wherever--they attempt to build higher forms of technology (be it a bird or a tree, a man or a monkey, a snake, or even a cow). As such, perhaps we are the remains of some sexual-encounter of another species with this planet, who came here to refuel or explore. Because they would choose a planet that most suits their biology and capability to survive, so microorganisms have a better opportunity of surviving the hitch-hiking journey here. As such, they can reach another planet, and over lots of time, the entire universe begins to evolve and come to an increasing close, like the forming of a zygote into a single baby, everything begins to form from some sort of primordial scattered soup of cells into a single, breathing, sentient being--or, the Christ body itself (be it vastly different from our human forms or not). Essentially, evolution doesn't stop for anyone. It hitch-hikes and spreads like a dandelion in the wind over a field of grass until eventually the entire field is a solid yellow forest (or, a single functioning, matured (and evolution is the maturity) body). Perhaps aside from hitch-hiking microorganisms evolving to take over and be like the children of the species who left us, perhaps that species crash landed here. We're like the show Survivor, but with souls. Here we are on a planet, and through millions of years (billions, even) evolution, we're constantly reinventing our technology (earthly life), coming from the ocean, to land, to air, to outerspace, and so-on. We take pieces of raw materials, such as cells, and then put them together like the instructions to putting together a vehicle, a lamp, bike, a rocket, or whatever. Essentially, souls may have become so lost and dilluded in the process, like a person who forgets who they are in order to "man" a rocketship. Looking through the windows, called eyes, souls are becoming increasingly lost and dilluded in the process of attempting to leap from the nest and fly like an eagle (into the future, mind you), putting together cells and other parts like the instructions to putting together any hardware, and they believe that more than attempting to use these vehicles in order to thrive and do something here, they actually believe that the soul is somewhat like the vehicle itself in that it can die (when, in reality, the soul is unlike the body, because the body is simply a rusting form of technology and doesn't die, so whereby we use rockets to get into outerspace, our souls use the body not to exist, but to do some other cosmic task). As such, one must stare into a seeming oblivion, making sense of what's here, and then finally stand up and say, "This body is not me. This body is a vessel, and as such, it is composed of complex, technological parts for the soul and spirit." And when you stand up and say this, you can begin to advance beyond your own form and stand up and realize that society as a whole is also a complexly invented machine, like this body made up of organs and cells, atoms, and so on. The next step is, for us fellow neighboring souls, moving physical bodies around like cars, is to (and this has to become a collective effort, so you doing your part now as a single person can indeed help throw the momentum into power) realize that we aren't separate, and we didn't form a bunch of physical, mortal bodies for each individual self (why would we? That doesn't make sense, no man hops on a rocket into a new planet by himself, rather, he works together...like a student learning from a teacher, or a child learning from their parent, or a friend from a friend). As such, we must realize that the physical bodies, the humans, were invented to be parts of a larger whole, like cells. Who wants to be an individual cell when you can be like we are, controlling the entire body from the head? Rather, we must realize that although we're good inventors, we have to awaken to the reality that like organs and cells, the entire society is devised to be one functioning baby--be it a zygote, an embryo, or a fetus now, that doesn't matter. For the record, however, I think society is getting to the point where it is ready to be a new-born functioning baby. As such, we must begin to, and try to, step outside of ourself and realize that our souls aren't confined to a single organ like a hypochondriac wondering if there's something wrong all the time, but that we can step up into the head of the baby and the entire physical bodies can work together like auto-parts to be a larger functioning technology, like a biological rocketship or whatever else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YT2095 Posted April 18, 2005 Share Posted April 18, 2005 well I didn`t read your diatribe, but you ask: "Are we technology for the soul? " I say sure, and why not, the body makes the Brain ambulatory, like a computer in a robot or the remote control operator for an RC car. of course this does presuppose there IS a soul, but if you can class the Brain as this and the body as the automaton. it works for me do you class Manitou or "spirit" as the same as a soul? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christ slave Posted April 18, 2005 Author Share Posted April 18, 2005 do you class Manitou or "spirit" as the same as a soul? Indeed I don't. I believe the spirit is the eternal vessel of the soul (it does not perish). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bascule Posted April 18, 2005 Share Posted April 18, 2005 You might want to refrain from repeated use of a transition to start multiple paragraphs as you have done with "As such". Your writing is taking on the characteristics of Joseph Smith's with his overusage of "And it came to pass" I'm not sure what exactly you're contending here, but it seems something similar to Descarte's use of the pineal gland as a sort of gateway into a transcendental realm where the soul resides, and our body is merely a puppet dancing upon the transcendental strings of our soul. However, the best biomedical research we have available paints a materialist picture of consciousness, and altering the brain's electrochemical balance seems to have profound and direct effects on consciousness itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christ slave Posted April 18, 2005 Author Share Posted April 18, 2005 You might want to refrain from repeated use of a transition to start multiple paragraphs as you have done with "As such". Your writing is taking on the characteristics of Joseph Smith's with his overusage of "And it came to pass" I'm not sure what exactly you're contending here' date=' but it seems something similar to Descarte's use of the pineal gland as a sort of gateway into a transcendental realm where the soul resides, and our body is merely a puppet dancing upon the transcendental strings of our soul. However, the best biomedical research we have available paints a materialist picture of consciousness, and altering the brain's electrochemical balance seems to have profound and direct effects on consciousness itself.[/quote'] Absolutely, because if you cut a bird's wing the bird is less likely to fly as well as it did. Likewise, if you beat and bash a car, smooth out its tires, it is less likely to perform well--and as such, this affects the person driving it, be it their patience, consciousness, or whatever. Likewise, don't even undervalue the life of anything. The spirit is always affected. If you cut a string from the puppeteer's hand, the puppeteer's capabilities are limited, and if the puppeteer is now forced to be it a moment or even a lifetime perform in these different cicumstances, it has affected the puppeteer. Likewise, don't think that because I do contend a puppet, a car, or whatever that I suggest such things mean nothing. If the puppeteer loses the puppet, it has affected the puppeteer's actions in that he is now puppetless--be the puppeteer less concerned now for puppeteering, since he has lost a puppet and resources, be it some sense of loss, free time made available, the change in options available, etc. Of course everything has its effect. If you strip a person of their coat in chilly weather, they will begin to evolve and adapt, getting used to it--suffering is induced. There are even Eskimo-type people who walk barefoot in the snow...and we've come a long way from monkeys, by the way. Technology evolves, and if technology is wounded, this has an effect on the user--be it their time or whatever else involved. So, I am not suggesting that the soul is simply some rich, snoody, luxary drinking snot that can go around reincarnating and living in a body without this having any effect on the soul. "Time is money" sort of sums it up, but I suppose if you want a better wording, "One's time spent here means one's time not spent there in the same moment." We do spend our energy, and this is a reflection or shadow of the eternal world. We learn from our parents, we are born from a parent into the earth, we evolved from a source, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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