Thought of the Day

[EdEarl]

[Sensei]

The worst part of it, is that the most of people are busy doing senseless jobs..

Or even busy hurting other people. Doing things against local/global community.

 

If they would be just more busy doing something good to community..

Edited April 3, 2016 by Sensei

[StringJunky]

Very Zen statement, Ed. When one is too busy, the life around you is passing by.

Edited April 3, 2016 by StringJunky

[EdEarl]

@Sensei

 

Who defines good? IMO many people are deluded into doing "good" deeds that are actually bad. For example, a bigot who wants to cleanse society of undesirables. Moreover, actions often result in unintended consequences, which means almost all of us have done something with good intentions that turned out bad. When we are busy, we often forget to be mindful of our environment, which is necessary to avoid as many delusions and unintended consequences as possible.

[michel123456]

Very Zen statement, Ed. When one is too busy, the life around you is passing by.

True.

But from this fact to the strep of "Stop the glorification of busy", no.

What is the next step? Glorification of lazy?

[John Cuthber]

I'm all in favour of glorifying lazy.

If it doesn't need doing, don't do it.

If it needs doing then do it in the way that takes the least time and energy.

 

Or, as Bill gates put it

"

“I choose a lazy person to do a hard job. Because a lazy person will find an easy way to do it.”"

[Sirona]

 

I'm all in favour of glorifying lazy.

If it doesn't need doing, don't do it.

If it needs doing then do it in the way that takes the least time and energy.

 

Or, as Bill gates put it

"

“I choose a lazy person to do a hard job. Because a lazy person will find an easy way to do it.”"

Hm, to automate, or not to automate...

 

I'd choose lying in bed with a good book over cleaning and cooking for myself any day. Now, if only I could automate my job too.

[michel123456]

 

I'm all in favour of glorifying lazy.

If it doesn't need doing, don't do it.

If it needs doing then do it in the way that takes the least time and energy.

 

Or, as Bill gates put it

"

“I choose a lazy person to do a hard job. Because a lazy person will find an easy way to do it.”"

 

It is a joke. A lazy person will not do the job at all. A lazy person will tell someone else to do the job and most often get all the credits by keeping the true worker in the dark.

[Sirona]

It is a joke. A lazy person will not do the job at all. A lazy person will tell someone else to do the job and most often get all the credits by keeping the true worker in the dark.

That kind of manipulation and scheming seems like hard work

[Strange]

Or, as Bill gates put it

"

“I choose a lazy person to do a hard job. Because a lazy person will find an easy way to do it.”"

 

Larry Wall (inventor of Perl) wrote that the three virtues of a programmer were laziness, hubris and impatience.

[Sirona]

 

Larry Wall (inventor of Perl) wrote that the three virtues of a programmer were laziness, hubris and impatience.

Sounds like they make charming partners then

[EdEarl]

True.

But from this fact to the strep of "Stop the glorification of busy", no.

What is the next step? Glorification of lazy?

Cute, but it's not necessary to do an about face as the next step. One can be productive without worshiping busy. Being busy may not accomplish anything useful; in fact, it can interfere with being productive.

Edited April 3, 2016 by EdEarl

[John Cuthber]

It is a joke. A lazy person will not do the job at all. A lazy person will tell someone else to do the job and most often get all the credits by keeping the true worker in the dark.

If someone is good at getting someone else to do things, is that a bad thing?

[EdEarl]

If someone is good at getting someone else to do things, is that a bad thing?

It depends. Beating a slave to do something is not generally acceptable; although, many think paying slave wages is OK, IMO it is not.

[dimreepr]

Anecdotally I find a lot of people who bang on about how busy they are do so piously.

 

Yet they don’t criticise a lion for sleeping most of the day.

[Phi for All]

There's hardly any getting around being busy these days. I take this sentiment to mean that a busy schedule doesn't require rushing yourself. You can make it to all those appointments and still have time to chat with a pleasant receptionist, or admire the landscaping your client paid a fortune for, or take five minutes to conquer an ice cream cone (no drips hit the floor on MY watch).

[dimreepr]

There's hardly any getting around being busy these days. I take this sentiment to mean that a busy schedule doesn't require rushing yourself. You can make it to all those appointments and still have time to chat with a pleasant receptionist, or admire the landscaping your client paid a fortune for, or take five minutes to conquer an ice cream cone (no drips hit the floor on MY watch).

 

 

If you’re employed then I would agree, but if you’re unemployed the same landscape inspires hatred not admiration and that ice cream is a distant hope, not the five minutes

Edited April 3, 2016 by dimreepr

[MigL]

I guess you're retired Ed.

 

Still you'd better find something to do, you know what they say about 'idle hands'.

Wouldn't want you getting into trouble.

 

I find quoting Bill Gates strangely amusing.

No-one would know the name of this school drop-out if Gary Kildall hadn't gone fishing that fateful weekend in 1980 when IBM came to buy an operating system for their first micro-computer.

Edited April 4, 2016 by MigL

[EdEarl]

@MigL yes.

I'm building an atrium and will garden.

[StringJunky]

...I find quoting Bill Gates strangely amusing.

No-one would know the name of this school drop-out if Gary Kildall hadn't gone fishing that fateful weekend in 1980 when IBM came to buy an operating system for their first micro-computer.

Well, means what he says, doesn't he? He found the easier way to do it.

[Sirona]

I really believe no matter how busy your schedule is you should make the time to acknowledge and interact with others. My morning routine might be running to work with a hastily thrown together breakfast because I wanted that extra thirty minutes of sleep, but I will stop to talk to my neighbours or building maintenance supervisors if I see them. I'll take the time to interact with the chatty barister even though I'm really not a morning person. I might get to work unprepared because I spent the evening procrastinating but I will still acknowledge my colleagues and make conversation.

I really dislike when people sacrifice their relationships with others because they're busy. I'd rather know I gave someone my time and made them feel valued and important, even at the risk of getting to work late, or being disorganised, missing something, having less free time, etc. I know personally, I get very upset when people are too busy to interact with me or push me aside so no matter what's on my schedule, I make sure I don't dismiss others.

 

@MigL yes.

I'm building an atrium and will garden.

That's great, Ed.

I know I am a long way away yet, but I am really looking forward to retiring. I'm happiest when I'm bush-walking, kayaking, swimming in gorges, climbing rocks, sitting under a waterfall or just lying on the sand or a muddy bank reading.

[Strange]

No-one would know the name of this school drop-out if Gary Kildall hadn't gone fishing that fateful weekend in 1980 when IBM came to buy an operating system for their first micro-computer.

 

Although (as far as I know) the only reason he left university was to start the company (and his parents supported him in the decision) so its not quite like someone who just gave up schooling at 15 or something.

 

Also the Gary KIldall story sounds a bit like a myth (I haven't heard it before). IBM and Digital Research were involved in negotiations for some time before IBM walked away and went to MicroSoft (as it was then). And CP/M was available for PCs for a few years but it was initially overpriced and never really gained enough market share.

[EdEarl]

 

Very little is needed to make a happy life; it is all within yourself, in your way of thinking. -- Marcus Aurelius

 

This thought is common in Eastern philosophy; did Marcus learn of it from traders or invent it?

[iNow]

He was quite the philosopher himself. His Meditations is IMO a bit like a Roman version of the Tao.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meditations

[EdEarl]

Marcus must have read all he could find. His tutor Lucius Volusius Maecianus was once governor of Egypt, when a "daughter library" of the Library of Alexander existed in the Serapeum of Alexandria.