wissen85 Posted April 26, 2016 Posted April 26, 2016 (edited) newest research confirms that fair skinned people have lowest vitamin d levels and thus suffer from lowest bone density, osteoporosis, rickets, multiple sclerosis and other health problems caused by lack of vitamin d. this scientific findings go against the mainstream theory of nina jablonski who says fair skin evolved for better vitamin d absorbtion in low uv environments. nature would have never selected a mutation which hinders you to absorb necessary levels of vitamin d by threatening you with skin cancer. the fact that fair skinned people need sunscreen and vitamin d pills to survive is evidence for suffering from geneic disorder rather than being adapted to cloudy north. without vitamin d pills and or fortified foods fair skinned people are at serious health risks, especially children and pregnant women. just common sense tells us fair skin cannot be an adaptation because if fair skinned people expose themselves to sunlight they are at risk of cancer and when they avoid sunlight they are at risks of serious health issues from lack of vitamin d. a double curse. adding to it the fact that fair skinned people even get sunbrun in low uv northern europe and snow burn in winter, it further denies the theory of nina jablonski(she says northern europeans got white to absorb vitamin d while eskimos remained dark through fish consumption which is absurd because northern europeans eat mainly fish, ever been to sweden or britain?, main dishes are salmon and fish & chips). fair skin cannot absorb vitamin d better because it reflects sunlight in contrast to dark sin(ever wondered why inuit are dark and frying pans are black because dark material absorbs heat and light better than shiny, the reasons why bedouins wear white robes?). as far as vitamin d metabolization, white people have the lowest bone density of all people on the planet probably because of the climate inhabited. vitamin d is produced by sun exposure. the skin is supposed to convert sunlight to vitamin d because of 7-dehydrocholesterol. however, white people reflect the sunlight so that the body compensates by depleting calcium from their bones. it makes whites more susceptible to kidney stones than any other race of people. the depletion of bone mass is responsible for their low bone density. Contrary to previous studies across different ethnic backgrounds, this study within Caucasian UK females shows that fair skin types have lower levels of 25(OH)D compared to darker skin types with potential detrimental health effects. Public health campaigns advocating sun avoidance in fair skinned individuals may need to be revised in view of their risk of vitamin D deficiency. http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0006477 http://io9.gizmodo.com/5846704/pale-skinned-people-need-more-vitamin-d-than-their-bodies-can-actually-make If you're one of those northern European types who burns when they so much as look at the sky, then bad news — you may need to get more vitamin D then you can safely gather from the sun. Alternatively: good news! You don't need to go in the sun to get vitamin D anymore!Scientists found that in order to get a level of vitamin D in our bodies that's healthy, people generally need to hit 12 hours per weekend in the sun — and even that isn't enough for pale people who are very sun sensitive. Unfortunately, most pale folk can't go out in the sun for any amount of time without sunscreen, which prevents you from absorbing vitamin D.So what do you do to get your vitamin D? Supplements — by which I mean chewy vitamins for grownups. Fair-skinned individuals are at an increased risk for vitamin D deficiency. They are often unable to spend enough time in the sun to obtain the necessary amount of vitamin D without getting sunburned. Vitamin D deficiency is a problem for patients with melanoma for the same reason. Now, researchers from the University of Leeds (UK) report that this deficit is significant enough that fair-skinned individuals and others at risk for vitamin D deficiency may want to consider taking a vitamin D supplement to correct the problem.In a sample of 1,200 people, about 730 had sub-optimal levels of vitamin D, lead researcher Julia Newton-Bishop, a professor of Biostatistics and Epidemiology at the University of Leeds, and colleagues found. Individuals with fair skin were much more likely to be vitamin D deficient, which was measured as 60nmol/l. Sun exposure correlated to an increased vitamin D level, but the researchers report in Cancer Causes and Control that this increase occurred only in participants who reported lengthy sun exposure (12 hours or more of sun exposure on the weekends). Individuals who were given vitamin D supplements had average levels of 11.0nmol/L or higher and achieved optimal vitamin D levels regardless of sun exposure. http://www.the-dermatologist.com/content/vitamin-d-supplements-may-be-necessary-fair-skinned-individuals-melanoma-patients-and-others Edited April 26, 2016 by wissen85 -1
swansont Posted April 26, 2016 Posted April 26, 2016 nature would have never selected a mutation which hinders you to absorb necessary levels of vitamin d by threatening you with skin cancer. the fact that fair skinned people need sunscreen and vitamin d pills to survive is evidence for suffering from geneic disorder rather than being adapted to cloudy north. ! Moderator Note First of all, we're not going down the path of genetic disorders. You had your shot at that discussion. Second, this is appeal to personal incredulity. Just because you can't figure it out doesn't mean it's not true. (It flies in the face of the fact that there are mutations that have become fixed in populations that have deleterious effects under some conditions but since they offer advantages under other conditions, they persist. See: sickle cell (resistance to malaria), cystic fibrosis (typhoid resistance), among other things about evolution you need to research.) Don't respond to this modnote. Any further mention of the topic of your closed thread will result in this being closed. Any repeat of your soapboxing will, too.
StringJunky Posted April 26, 2016 Posted April 26, 2016 (edited) newest research confirms that fair skinned people have lowest vitamin d levels and thus suffer from lowest bone density, osteoporosis, rickets, multiple sclerosis and other health problems caused by lack of vitamin d. this scientific findings go against the mainstream theory of nina jablonski who says fair skin evolved for better vitamin d absorbtion in low uv environments. nature would have never selected a mutation which hinders you to absorb necessary levels of vitamin d by threatening you with skin cancer. the fact that fair skinned people need sunscreen and vitamin d pills to survive is evidence for suffering from geneic disorder rather than being adapted to cloudy north. without vitamin d pills and or fortified foods fair skinned people are at serious health risks, especially children and pregnant women. just common sense tells us fair skin cannot be an adaptation because if fair skinned people expose themselves to sunlight they are at risk of cancer and when they avoid sunlight they are at risks of serious health issues from lack of vitamin d. a double curse. adding to it the fact that fair skinned people even get sunbrun in low uv northern europe and snow burn in winter, it further denies the theory of nina jablonski(she says northern europeans got white to absorb vitamin d while eskimos remained dark through fish consumption which is absurd because northern europeans eat mainly fish, ever been to sweden or britain?, main dishes are salmon and fish & chips). fair skin cannot absorb vitamin d better because it reflects sunlight in contrast to dark sin(ever wondered why inuit are dark and frying pans are black because dark material absorbs heat and light better than shiny, the reasons why bedouins wear white robes?). as far as vitamin d metabolization, white people have the lowest bone density of all people on the planet probably because of the climate inhabited. vitamin d is produced by sun exposure. the skin is supposed to convert sunlight to vitamin d because of 7-dehydrocholesterol. however, white people reflect the sunlight so that the body compensates by depleting calcium from their bones. it makes whites more susceptible to kidney stones than any other race of people. the depletion of bone mass is responsible for their low bone density. Nice one for using a blatant infomercial for vitamins as a citation. Foot... shot. Just because it's on the internet doesn't mean it's true. http://io9.gizmodo.com/5846704/pale-skinned-people-need-more-vitamin-d-than-their-bodies-can-actually-make If you're one of those northern European types who burns when they so much as look at the sky, then bad news — you may need to get more vitamin D then you can safely gather from the sun. Alternatively: good news! You don't need to go in the sun to get vitamin D anymore! Scientists found that in order to get a level of vitamin D in our bodies that's healthy, people generally need to hit 12 hours per weekend in the sun — and even that isn't enough for pale people who are very sun sensitive. Unfortunately, most pale folk can't go out in the sun for any amount of time without sunscreen, which prevents you from absorbing vitamin D. So what do you do to get your vitamin D? Supplements — by which I mean chewy vitamins for grownups. (Note this line with the image.line) Moral: 99% of everything on the internet is bollocks. 62.56789% of all statistics are made up. you need need to stop cherry-picking to support your arguments... and check the veracity of your sources. Edited April 26, 2016 by StringJunky
John Cuthber Posted April 26, 2016 Posted April 26, 2016 Wissen 85, Since you don't appear able to find it without help from a grown up, this is what scientific research looks like http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3685533/ Granted, that it it only 1 smallish study, it shows the exact opposite of what you claim. 1
Arete Posted April 26, 2016 Posted April 26, 2016 How do you explain the strong correlation between latitude and UV radiation levels? http://www.g3journal.org/content/early/2016/02/22/g3.115.026773.abstract How do you explain the fact that fair skinned individuals generate more vitamin D than dark skinned individuals following controlled exposure to UV light? http://www.karger.com/Article/FullText/354750 How do you explain the well researched trade off between protection from UV damage and vitamin D production? http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/exd.12388/full 5
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