Sciencegeeknm Posted May 13, 2016 Posted May 13, 2016 Hello, I am a complete beginner to synthesis and wondered if someone knowledgeable would mind checking these steps to make 5-Bromo 3-hexanone When you make the two molecules how is the carbon carbon bond formed to join them together and make the target molecule? Thanks.
Elite Engineer Posted May 14, 2016 Posted May 14, 2016 (edited) Usually through free radical addition. GGG.bmp Edited May 14, 2016 by Elite Engineer
hypervalent_iodine Posted May 14, 2016 Posted May 14, 2016 Usually through free radical addition. How exactly do you propose to do the reaction explicitly mentioned and asked about in the OP by radical addition? OP: First thing: you haven't drawn a hexanone, you've drawn a heptanone. Which is correct? Could you also give more info on this question? Is there some restriction for what your starting materials can be? Are you actually planning on doing this? As to your specific reaction schemes: formation of the C-C bond isn't going to occur with the the two molecules you have there. Are you familiar with what an Aldol reaction is? This might be a better route.
Sciencegeeknm Posted May 14, 2016 Author Posted May 14, 2016 Hi, Sorry it is heptanone I have drawn. The target molecule is one I have just randomly drawn. I do not intend to make it. I study organic chemistry as a hobby/interest and watch online lectures. The lectures are now covering synthesis so I have tried to do one myself. I learnt that the starting material should only be 4 or 5 carbons and possibly an alcohol? Im trying to do a retro synthesis here but probably not very well. How would you go about making this target molecule? Or have I drawn something which can't be made? Thanks Nick.
hypervalent_iodine Posted May 19, 2016 Posted May 19, 2016 Hi, Sorry it is heptanone I have drawn. The target molecule is one I have just randomly drawn. I do not intend to make it. I study organic chemistry as a hobby/interest and watch online lectures. The lectures are now covering synthesis so I have tried to do one myself. I learnt that the starting material should only be 4 or 5 carbons and possibly an alcohol? Im trying to do a retro synthesis here but probably not very well. How would you go about making this target molecule? Or have I drawn something which can't be made? Thanks Nick. Sorry to only now be replying to this. The compound can certainly be made, but not with the two compounds you have listed. I would go via the Aldol route I mentioned (using acetaldehyde and 2-pentanone), followed by substitution of the alcohol to get the bromo compound.
Sciencegeeknm Posted May 20, 2016 Author Posted May 20, 2016 Thanks for your suggestion of using the Adol reaction. On the attached file I have drawn out the reaction which I think is correct? You said to substitute the OH for Br. Would you use H-Br and would the reaction follow the Sn1 pathway with water as the leaving group? Many thanks.
hypervalent_iodine Posted May 20, 2016 Posted May 20, 2016 HBr is fine. It's at a secondary position, so in theory it might do either. You can promote one path over the other by altering conditions, but it doesn't matter so much. Your starting material is racemic anyway, so which one you promote won't change the outcome.
BabcockHall Posted May 23, 2016 Posted May 23, 2016 PBr3 is another way to convert an alcohol into a alkyl bromide.
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