Sully

[Sensei]

 

Pilots should be trained how to land on the water, or on the ground, not exactly in airport..

 

[swansont]

 

Pilots should be trained how to land on the water, or on the ground, not exactly in airport...

 

 

They are. His quote doesn't imply otherwise. Its that nobody is trained for all of those things (dual engine loss, water landing, low altitude, etc.) as simultaneous events. And you can't train for every contingency, in all permutations. It would take too long to train people, and some failures are probably deemed non-recoverable, so no amount of training is going to help.

[Sensei]

They are trained to the most common events,

but people that fly worldwide from continent to continent,

MUST, be trained to land on the water, SAFELY.

As a common procedure.

It's not common procedure to land on the water, AFAIK.

 

Water landing that ended up safely can be counted on fingers.

That's because pilots have no bloody idea how to behave in such situations.

They have no idea how to slowly decelerate speed of aircraft. And what to do next.

 

If they would be trained to land on water, there would be no accidents while hitting water, or afraid of hitting water..

It would take too long to train people, and some failures are probably deemed non-recoverable, so no amount of training is going to help.

 

After losing complete control over machine, right, like while ripping off entire Stabilizer at the end. That's critical damage.

For this event there would be needed specialized computer program, which would keep airplane flying.

Edited July 27, 2016 by Sensei

[John Cuthber]

 

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For this event there would be needed specialized computer program, which would keep airplane flying.

Why not have that computer fly the plane all the time?

Do you really think a computer can do a better job in unexpected circumstances that a person could?

[Sensei]

Why not have that computer fly the plane all the time?

Do you really think a computer can do a better job in unexpected circumstances that a person could?

Computer analyze data which arrives to sensors.

If sensors (f.e. Pitot tube)

receive wrong data

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pitot_tube

which happened couple times,

when f.e. common wasp made nest inside of tube, (after couple days delays of flight in tropics)

it started malfunctioning,

and after start of airplane,

gave wrong data,

which autopilot used,

and airplanes crashed, as soon as autopilot was turned on.

 

Similar situation happened on Iceland, but instead of nest of wasp, Pitot tube literally froze.

 

Losing stabilizer, disallows fly by human pilot, but computer could handle such special case, at least to land safely (if everything else is fine)..

Some pilots tried to keep airplane flying after losing of stabilizer, but it required increase and decrease of power of engine, in right moments.

Over and over again, thousands of times.

They managed to keep it flying for hours, but could not made it land..

Computer could do it.

Edited July 27, 2016 by Sensei

[swansont]

They are trained to the most common events,

but people that fly worldwide from continent to continent,

MUST, be trained to land on the water, SAFELY.

As a common procedure.

It's not common procedure to land on the water, AFAIK.

 

 

Not a common procedure, no, because most planes are designed to land on terra firma. But you are asserting that they don't train for this. And yet on every commercial flight I've taken, they mention "in the event of a water landing", so it's obvious that the possibility is recognized. There are protocols in place for a water landing, and pilots are familiar with them.

 

As far as practice goes, if that's what you mean by training, how exactly would you do this?

 

Computer could do it.

 

I think you overestimate this. Computers can't even drive cars reliably yet.